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Feb 6, 2022 23 tweets 9 min read Read on X
Friday night court filings add to Facebook's horrible terrible week. Judge stepped in and ran over FB affirming expectations on negligent discovery:
1) production of Zuckerberg's notebooks
2) discovery of Zuckerberg/Sandberg
3) details on FB's secret whitelisting data deals
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4) production of 9 plaintiffs' data in Facebook's possession - ALL OF IT (more on this in a second)
5) more depositions
6) production of Facebook's "secret sauce" memo (all revisions)
now some details...
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On the plaintiffs' data ordered for discovery, Facebook's legal team has tries to argue they only have to turn over the data which is accessible or shared. Read what the Judge said about this back to Facebook confirming this is Facebook's position. Which leads naturally to... /3 Image
This entire exchange between the Court and Facebook's legal team (Ms Stein) is something, "it must be that Facebooks collects additional information which is does not want to produce to the named plaintiffs." /4 ImageImage
You can see how Facebook tried to suggest the only data they have to turn over is what is in the "social graph" and "Download Your Information" file. But clearly there is more. With backs against wall, they then argue it's "extraordinarily difficult to find all of it." 👀 /5 Image
If it's too hard ... too difficult ... to pull all of the data Facebook has on a user data protection authorities are all leaning in harder (California/Europe). Even Facebook's own employee isn't signing this section on "sharing data" during deposition... /6 Image
The plaintiff attorneys who are super good and technical jumped all over all of this reminding Court data reciprocity is included in the case and Facebook also "possesses data from data brokers" in addition to inferred data. They want it all, Court rules it's all relevant. /7 Image
"We want a response [from Facebook] admitting that, as well, and an order so that we can tell the jury they took so much data from these nine people they can't even identify it. They don't know where it is, they don't know how it was used." 👀/8 Image
Facebook was also ordered to turn over its communications and audits Zuckerberg promised Congress under oath. Court ordered none of these are privileged since Facebook told the world they would do the investigation to make sure their products were safe. /9 Image
Facebook also filed motion Friday asking to seal the names of two firms that conducted their audits. For some reason, FB really, really doesn't want the world to know who cleaned up the other potential Cambridge Analyticas who have Facebook's user data. /9 Image
These audits are all called the "ADI" (app developer investigation) and it appears there are a whole lot of communications which aren't privileged. AG in Massachusetts also pushed to get these so you've got to expect this is how they will get turned over. /10 Image
These are part of Cambridge Analytica cover-up lawsuits. Facebook successfully wrote a narrative why CA didn't matter but the reality has always been it very much did due to (1) cover-up (securities/governance) and (2) consumer protection (platform was designed to leak). /11
And I'll leave the final words to the Court from their filing last night. Facebook "is far from completing document production. Despite orders from Judge Corley and the Special Master" and the Judge writing this order... /12 Image
"At every turn, Facebook has disparaged Plaintiffs' discovery requests and their efforts to get the information they need. This is a false narrative, belied by the results of Plaintiffs' motions before Judge Corley and the Special Master." /13 Image
This is NdCal (Case No. 18-md-02843-VC-JSC). Gibson Dunn is defending Facebook - not used to being pushed around like this. There was a filing in DC Friday, too, for a parallel case where Court has also lost patience with FB's delay tactics ordering deposition of Zuckerberg. /14 Image
Adding this Order by the Court for this Thursday's NdCal hearing for Facebook's cover-up of Cambridge Analytica related matters threaded above. /15
Incoming... this also just posted. An order from Special Master for case. "MANO" stands for Make America Number One. There's long been questions on extent of Facebook's involvement working alongside Cambridge Analytica employees and campaign. Unlikely much is privileged. /16 Image
Same case, third key filing in like 72 hours. Special Master has ordered the following plaintiff data to be turned over. The question here will be whether Facebook can avoid turning over any user data it has harvested to "tune" its algorithms that's not on the "front end." /17 ImageImage
fwiw, Facebook interrupted hearing then successfully motioned to have the two firms sealed who did their "unprecedented" audits of all potential Cambridge Analyticas. But they came out in a DC lawsuit earlier this week - FTI Consulting and Stroz Friedberg - but shhhhh.... /18 Image
Adding this post as it includes the consultants who worked on the "audits" for Facebook to try to identify where else its data flowed across the universe. Some interesting backgrounds and experience. /19
Bingo. Facebook just filed answer to riddle of which Facebook executive is being sent in response to the Court's order - as the Judge said any other plans should be postponed. It's one of their senior legal execs who has been there more than a decade. /20
Gibson Dunn on behalf of Facebook names the executive but then goes on a six page rant arguing it hasn't delayed and deflected discovery. This paragraph is the most absurd failing to point out facebook covered-up the core issues until 2018 when the lawsuit was then filed. /21 Image
And this order from the Special Master just posted. Everyone/everything in yellow is in a very sensitive position related to the extent of Cambridge Analytics-like abuse of data (and the cover-up). I am telling you...it's getting hot in California. Watch this space. /22 Image

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Jan 21
Woah. Sheryl Sandberg, former COO of Facebook, just sanctioned by Delaware judge for deleting emails ahead of trial this spring. This is the state pension shareholder case alleging the company overpaid the FTC and SEC in $5B+ settlements in order to protect Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Long after the books had been inspected and many lawsuits had played out, it was disclosed last year she had a personal Gmail account under a pseudonym that may have been used for relevant communications. /2 Image
The Judge here calls her a "high sophisticated individual." He probably doesn't know about the 2018 NYT report on how she carved out these issues in her Senate Intel testimony or how their lawyers were sanctioned on related discovery in California. /3 Image
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wow. This AI lawsuit against Facebook keeps getting worse as they reluctantly unseal documents on Court orders.
Check out this allegation. Not only two hrs before discovery cut-off but the Friday before we now know Mark Zuckerberg was deposed... /1 Image
Here is the bit from the newly filed and now unsealed third amended complaint. Allegations here Facebook used torrenting to download a pirated dataset to train LLaMA thereby also "seeding" pirated content globally. This is a BFD. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
In fact, it can be criminal so this count is in the third amended complaint and the state attorney general (hello, @AGRobBonta) should note these allegations here. As it relates to this case, it may also break their privilege claims since it alleged to further a crime. /3 Image
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wow. Upon Court order, incriminating exhibits were unsealed at 3:30am in an AI lawsuit against Meta. Once past a 'fake privilege,' it appears Zuckerberg approved the use of a highly controversial, pirated dataset.
Note OpenAI, too? AI companies with no ethics or guardrails. /1 Image
Here they acknowledge risk in media coverage, and massive EU fines, if "we have used a dataset we know to be pirated." So then you ask yourself the question, did they actually know it was pirated and use it? I uploaded docs - . /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
To that question, here is how the internal project manager describes the dataset. Note the line (these are all my yellow highlights), "when sourced from copyrighted materials without the permission of copyright holders." /3 Image
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Jan 8
woah. This Friday? Too much moving on court dockets so I will surface for you. This matters, in this mega-Facebook case, as highly respected Chenault was Chairman of Facebook's board during its biggest scandals. WSJ reported he left board after disagreements with Zuckerberg. /1 Image
Here is the report on his departure, it includes reports of disagreements with Peter Thiel, too, over elections policies and "clashes" over moderation policies.
Btw, highly relevant to the last 24hrs of news. /2 wsj.com/articles/chena…Image
Moving on, Zuckerberg has also been noticed for deposition after "alleged wrongdoing on a truly colossal scale." He was already deposed last month in Hawaii for 7hrs. I would expect SEC closely compares transcripts to their 2019 depo which @zamaan_qureshi managed to unseal. /3 Image
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Dec 31, 2024
The secret deal (aka "Project Jedi Blue") between Google and Facebook has finally been unsealed in district court tonight. Link in text tweet. /1 Image
Here is a link to the full 48 pages of the agreement. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…
Here is how NYT reported it in the complaint. Google and Facebook suggested it was misrepresented. Their proxies have misled public into thinking it was dismissed from lawsuit despite Google's CEO being deposed about it only months ago. /3 nytimes.com/2021/01/17/tec…
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Dec 31, 2024
woah. ~300 redacted summary judgment google exhibits posted in TX. I've uploaded all. most eye-popping - we finally get Google-Facebook contract (aka Jedi Blue) alleged as bid rigging (yes, press was misled, it's still part of the claims). /1 Image
If you need a definition for Match Rate, Google and Facebook include it with example of using the "encrypted blob" on mobile, feels very much like a fingerprint y'all. Here is the full contract, don't sleep on section dealing with monopoly enforcement. /2 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…Image
There are a ton of new exhibits from discovery with similar themes of Google secretly using projects to manipulate its black box auctions. "The first rule of Bernanke is we don't talk about Bernanke." /3 Image
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