Following on from @ww2tv with @ReassessHistory episode British steel in Normandy I wanted to drop a few stats. These are from allied reports reviewing armoured warfare some stats cover all theatres of war.
This study is based on a sample of 12,140 allied tank. American, British, Canadian and French tanks. I will bring it in to British as it progresses. And more so, the Normandy campaign
Note it was recorded that due to incompleteness of Allied records, separate tank casualties for ‘gunfire’ was not broken down into categories of tank/anti tank/artillery.
As some would expect gunfire was the highest over all percentage of tank casualties in all theatres at 54%.
Land mines 20% in all theatres
Mechanical, terrain, non enemy weapons immobilised 13% of this sample. Its stated that the British and US were only concerned with weapons damage so under reported. Canadians recorded 25%-40% deemed to be more accurate
Hollow charge weapons made up 7.5%, the Panzerfaust type weapons went on to peak in spring ’45 with 25-35% of all tank casualties in NW Europe.
Miscellaneous weapons or combinations accounted for 5.5%, notably enemy air attacks knocked out a negligible share of this small percentage.
A study of the average range at which tanks were knocked out by gunfire indicated 785 yards (717metres/0.7Km). Hollow charges averaged 50 yards. This is in theatres.
Sites of gun fire hits immobilising tanks were 31% turret, 52% hull and 17% suspension systems.
Site of hollow charge hits immobilising tanks were 44% turret, 48% hull and 8% suspension systems
Causes of burned out tanks once hit were attributed to 65% gunfire, 61% hollow charges and 21% mines.
Limited data on allied tank crews showed an average of 2-2.5 crew members became casualties. This includes killed, wounded, missing.
Took further break that down, tank commanders suffered the highest rates of 57%, followed by gunners/wireless ops 51%, co drivers 48% and drivers 47%.
Staggeringly these figures in another report show that 40% of these casualties occurred outside the tank. 11-30% of total losses attributed to crew trying to escape from the tank.
Tomorrow, I will bring this report in to take a look at the Normandy campaign and to see if any conclusions can be drawn from the data. It may also highly differnet approaches to deployment of tanks between allied nations.
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What was the weaponry in the German strongpoints and did the pre bombardment succesfully knock them out?
A more common question is how many casaulites were sustained on the beach and what was the main cause.
A recent archive visit answered these questions.
The first figures showed enemy weapons by sector that had been identified. For Queen Sector, Sword Beach-
88mm None
75mm x3
5cm ATK x3
37mm x1
Mortars x7
Machine Gun x14-15
It was then recorded of the above, the following was serviceable after touch down i.e not put out of action by the initial bombardment
88mm None
75mm x1 1/2 (No clarification on the half figure)
5cm ATK x1
37mm x1
Mortars x6
MG's x11-12
This implies that the WN positions were on the whole operational and able to bring fire onto Queen Sector, Sword Beach. The pre bombardment had only caused a small number of weaponary to have been destroyed. This however does not factor in how many of the Germans in the positions could have been killed or wounded.
On the 5 June during the 80th anniversary period, @ShaunColdicutt, @WW2Explorer and I were granted access to Bieville-Beuville Chateau. It has remained unoccupied since June 1944. I had been privately contacted by the owner wanting to learn more of the Chateaus history during the SWW.
The chateau was occupied and used by the men of the German 716 Infantry Division upon till 6 June, quickly they would leave as the British 3rd Infantry Division pushed through the area. Battle damage can be found on all four sides still, but it is heavily rebuilt due to battle damage.
The men of the 2nd King Shropshire Light Infantry would liberate and then use the chateau. Accounts make reference to the tunnels underneath that the Germans had been using. Under the chateau is an extensive labyrinth of corridors and rooms. Some idea for defensive positions. For over a month 2KSLI would remain in Bieville before then moving forward towards Caen on 8 July during Op Charnwood.
Staying on the Battle of Breville theme, the 9th Battalion had running battles for the Chateau St Come over the coming days since they arrived on 7 June. On the evening of 10 June '44, 5th Black Watch of the 51st Highland Division had arrived at the sunken lane.
The 51st Highland Div had come up onto the Breville Ridge to support the 6th Airborne Div. The 5th Black Watch would look to close the Breville Gap with an attack.
At around 0300hrs on the 11 June a patrol from 5th Black Watch passed through the crossroads at Breville. They reported back on limited contact and believed it was not strongly held. They did not enter into Breville to confirm this. Map- Remonter le temps 1950-60, Google SV.
Lets take a look at the battle of Breville in June '44, in reality this would be the frontline on the left flank till Operation Paddle at the end of August.
Lets set the scene from 7 June, the 1 Special Service Brigade (Commandos) along with the 6 Airborne Div holding the line.
There was a gap between Amfreville and Chateau St Come, about 1 mile long. The British line needed to be closed with the German forces occupying the village of Breville. A large area of no mans land existed during this period around there.
Today's Google gives you an idea of the gap in the line. It does not really give you an appreciation of the terrain from this angle, we will get to that and its relevance of what takes place later.
Dearest Family,
You must consider my writing is for the benefit of you all. The opportune time for writing is sparse to say the least.
Tonight I am in my foxhole which has a log roof. The log roof primarily serves as protection for artillery
but also with it one may have a light. Candles are the fashionable things here in the ETO. I'm getting along just fine, no gripes or complaints of course, living in a foxhole isn't the nicest place in the world. But that ole civilian saying applies, "This is war."
Just don't worry about me I'm getting along swell. My biggest worry and trouble over here is the men in my platoon. Believe me, I have the best damned platoon in the world but still men have to be fed, clothed and sheltered and that is my problem.
Following on from last weeks look at the 12 SS Panzer Divisions defensive positions around Galmanche and the impact on the British 59th Inf Div during Op Charnwood, today I wanted to look at the ridge leading up to Lebisey that the British 3rd Inf Div would attack...
This photo is the D60 looking south, the road leads into Caen and would be a main axis of advance for the British on the 8 July '44. Behind me, 1km away is the village of Bieville. The British frontline had formed around this area since the 6 June. We will come back to here later
Here's the overview map of where we are just north of Caen. The landscape has changed a lot with urban and industrial sprawl since 1944. The map on the right is from 1950-65. Source- remonterletemps