“Story finding is an act of recognition. It’s about trying to notice the small things in the margin that might lead you to a story. The little shit.” (@JadAbumrad)
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Jad plays clips of Marc Marron interviewing Terry Gross, stopping the interview to note the edge questions Marron asks—the little blips in the story that Marron stops and pushes on. This is what Anna Sale was doing on stage to Jad yesterday.
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This whole convo reminds me of the great podcast where Jesse Thorn interviews interviewers. I recommend the episodes with Jerry Springer and Brooke Gladstone. 4/ maximumfun.org/podcasts/the-t…
So, how do you get good at recognizing and following those little moments? Here’s an article from Latin Nasser about it: 5/ transom.org/2018/latif-nas…
.@bexbress: Finding the story comes in figuring out how to pitch the story. In trying to convince others that there’s a There there.
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Also from @bexbress: When telling a story about a system, find a character through which the entire system reveals itself.
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It’s hard to find a story alone—to figure out what the story is in all the info. Story finding comes often between people, in the process of calling or texting someone & telling the story to them. Also sometimes you hold on and re-explain until you find it. (@alexandrianeas)
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Finding a story is difficult and you often feel while doing it like you’re not doing anything. So to deal with that, @Si_Adler came up with a system:
Read three things
Make three phone calls
Schedule three phone calls
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There is no new output without new input. You just need to be churning through information. And growing an awareness of where you feel interested in or surprised about a thing. (@Si_Adler)
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Story finding tips from @latifnasser: 1. Set up google alerts 2. Make a list of scholars you think are brilliant 3. Sign up for newsletters 4. Listen to lots of oral histories 5. Go to Eventbrite and search for free lectures. Then go to them.
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How do you know when to cut your losses on a story?
@alexandrianeas: Sometimes you know you need a certain thing, and you just can’t find it. A certain character, for example.
@bexbress: If I still have a fire under me, I won’t let it go.
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If something in a story isn’t clicking together, step back. Maybe for a month. A few months. A few years. Sometimes you come back and it all clicks. (@alexandrianeas)
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(This talk is gonna be interesting for me bc I’m highly sensitive to what I call Show Voice—that thing where everyone who’s on a certain show sounds exactly the same. The Moth is all about that. There is A Way to Do It, a cadence, a rhythm, a pattern of story beats & timing.)
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(Show Voice can be so comforting. It’s consistent, familiar, predictable. Podcasts w/ a strong Show Voice make great driving shows because I know what I’m gonna get. The *story* changes, but I can anticipate the shape.)
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(Note: quotes are quoted, non-quoted text is paraphrased, and parentheses are my commentary.)
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They had a plan for Thursday’s show. Wednesday’s show was on Ukraine so they thought great, we did Ukraine Wednesday, we’ll do a show Thursday about what happened to Afghan refugees. But then Russia invaded Ukraine.
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Important: @NoelKing wakes up at like 4:30am. Seems useful for someone who makes a daily news show.
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This panel discussion is all about archiving and oral history! #onairfest
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“Archiving is [@KPCC’s] The Big One of podcasts.” Day 2 host @TastyKeish 🔥
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Historically, only people in power made archives. “Our project is the speak into the silence” and share voices of marginalized growth so you have a more accurate collection of voices to reconstruct the past. -@zaheerali
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