This order seems to be misleading. By design dark ping fill rate will be notably less than exchange fill rate and that does not make it worse to ping a dark pool prior to an exchange. By pinging dark first The client may receive better prices, more size at a lower impact..
Not removing the exchange quote can be beneficial for trading a large parent order when there is more behind. If you receive 15% fill rate in dark that does not mean that 85% of the times that you did not get a fill in dark, you wont get a fill in exchanges afterwards..
They aren’t mutually exclusive. What matters is whether on average with pinging + exchange you get better fill rate + price improvement rather than going only to exchanges. You usually do. Entirely possible that DB didn’t but the FINRA order does not say that clearly. ..
All it gives is a stat that fill rate within their dark pool was 12-32% as compared to a lit exchange which by design will be ~ 100%. It is easy to conclude based on this description that brokers should not send ping dark pools before going to exchanges..
..That may lead to worse execution. Based on reading the order it seems to me that the real issue may have been giving preference to their own dark pool vs other dark pools when a report (due to a “BUG”!) told them that other dark pools were better…
Fine, but why confuse everyone by introducing this stat that their own dark pool fill rate was worse than exchange fill rate. It would be impossible for it to be otherwise.
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This seems to be a popular opinion for people defending our market structure and putting it back on retail for being stupid enough to trade in the first place.
I am a huge fan of investing in index funds but I also find this POV quite condescending and strongly disagree with it
Index funds also do a lot better than active funds on average. Nobody tells the active funds to not trade in stock markets.
Leveraged funds lose money all the time (e.g. Archegos capital, LTCM) - noone says that they should stop investing.
A PFOF ban will be too politically charged and will not resolve the real issue. Here is an alternative market structure proposal.
Create a Retail NBBO instead.
1. Allow exchanges to create separate order books for retail flow. Each limit order books serves a segment :For example Robinhood/Schwab etc can be retail1, IBKR retail2 etc..
2. These categories only apply to firms sending Market Orders and Marketable Limit Orders. Exchanges to publish markouts at 1 sec,5 Sec, 30 Sec, 1 Min, ..5 Min for flows from each segment to encourage liq provision.
The wholesalers just can’t get their stories together. Their arguments shift ever 5 seconds and circular. Here are the top 10:
1. Retail brokers don’t get mid from exchanges because that would mean the rest of flow would be more toxic for wholesalers and they wont get the same price improvement
2. Retail brokers don’t get mid from exchanges because retail investors couldn’t care less for that price improvement of half a spread.
@MelissaLeeCNBC keeps asking Doug “what about the price distortion in NBBO” that you are comparing yourself against because a huge portion of volume does not even make it to the exchange. She can not get an answer! Instead he frames his own questions and answers them. #PFOF
That’s the most inconvenient “fact” of this mkt structure and it’s hard to run away from it. @GaryGensler understands that and points out in his interview with @avibarrons that measuring against NBBO is like “measuring the height of the children, I leave part of the ruler out”
Interesting to hear @Dougielarge say that banning PFOF will only increase their profitability. Then why lobby against it? I can think of two possibilities: a) If PFOF goes away the large retail brokers may figure out other ways to monetize it which does not involve wholesalers;