Well-known German virologist critiques the Worobey and Pekar preprints. Describing their multiple spillover hypothesis at the market as "comical" and making no sense from the POV of plausibility.
h/t @gdemaneuf ardaudiothek.de/episode/kekule…
@gdemaneuf The reason why #ProximalOrigin authors & Friends are pushing the multiple spillover hypothesis so hard is because otherwise the market zoonosis hypothesis has no legs.
But this multiple spillover hypothesis is itself not supported by any evidence.
Despite lacking key evidence for a single spillover event at the market, the #ProximalOrigin authors & Friends insist that there were multiple spillovers.
If there was so much cross-species transmission happening, where are the infected animals?
A lot of journalists might have gotten confused by the technical language in the recent preprints, but Lineage A and B are only separated by 2 mutations.
2 mutations.
This doesn't require multiple spillovers from animals into humans.
If the authors insist that this is unlikely and that A and B must have spilled over separately, then the 2020 lineage A sequence at the market with another 2 mutations compared to the earlier lineage A must've required yet another animal spillover.
And the Omicron, which has dozens of mutations, must've then - in these authors' judgment - required a massive set of zoonoses.
*sarcasm warning*
The most parsimonious explanation of currently available genetic + epidemiological evidence is that the Covid-19 outbreak preceded the Huanan market Dec 2019 cluster.
There is no sign of an original animal source of SARS2 or similar viruses in Wuhan's animal trading community.
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I don't feel particularly confident about the new review convened by NIH after listening to their recent call. It is not clear to me how that process will draw in diverse viewpoints on this issue and give weight to the judgments of non-scientist experts.
The pandemic has degraded my confidence in (science) journalism, especially on the #OriginOfCovid
Much of the misinformation on this topic (false or inaccurate info presented as fact, intentionally or otherwise) has come from prominent scientists & been amplified by top media.
After creating and/or spreading much of these misinformation, best efforts have not been made by these prominent scientists or journalists to correct their errors.
I can describe this situation as one where wave upon wave of misinformation is coming from experts and journalists we would normally hope can be trusted to fact check their work with skeptical parties first and to correct the record when they have accidentally spread untruths.
@R_H_Ebright I leave room for the possibility that these scientists and journalists are just repeating the same honest/human mistakes rather than a conspiracy to deceive the public.
@R_H_Ebright I honestly think they just didn't know. It looks like their paper was based on a major error on their part, not an intention to deceive.
@R_H_Ebright Sometimes when there are too many authors on a paper, the other authors assume someone else in the team has done due diligence to properly check key facts on which their group analysis is based on.
And it's terrible when this turns out to not be true.
#OriginOfCovid reporting in early 2022 is a repeat of what happened in early 2020.
Some scientists, including some from 2020 #ProximalOrigin, put out a paper claiming certainty of a natural origin.
Reporters, incl some from 2020, rush out headlines amplifying this claim. /20
I get that people’s bandwidths are stretched right now with the pandemic and the war in Ukraine.
But weren’t any lessons learnt from 2020 about responsible COVID-19 reporting?
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice…
After reading the preprints, I quickly identified major scientific issues or misunderstandings undermining the main claims of the highly reported Worobey et al. preprint.
I will address the 11 key claims of this preprint listed in their discussion.
Dec 2019 to mid-Jan 2020: Chinese CDC, Hubei CDC, Wuhan CDC specifically looked for potential Covid-19 cases with links to Huanan Market or living in the vicinity of the market.
Feb 2022: Western scientists say, "Wow so many of the early cases were centered around the market!"
China-WHO report annexes (p125) described the early search for cases:
"screening.. targeting people with pneumonia.. and exposure history with Huanan market.. surveillance at several hospitals (close to Huanan market), Huanan market and the neighbourhood" who.int/publications/i…
Jan 2020, the 2019-nCoV Outbreak Joint Field Epidemiology Investigation Team reported that, in late Dec 2019, Wuhan CDC did "a retrospective search for pneumonia patients potentially linked to the market.. found additional patients linked to the market" ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/artic…
My main takeaway from this report by @theintercept@MaraHvistendahl is there is a Year 6 report potentially describing more work done at the Wuhan Institute of Virology - that the NIH received from EcoHealth in June 2021 but has not shared with reporters. theintercept.com/2022/03/03/wuh…
@theintercept@MaraHvistendahl Article quotes @FilippaLentzos co-director of King’s College London’s Centre for Science and Security Studies: “By only communicating through litigation requests, it comes across as though [NIH]’re covering something up.”
Note that Peter Daszak, president of the EcoHealth Alliance told @theintercept “Even though we didn’t have access to the [NIH] funding, we still had to file reports on it. So we then filed the Year 6 and 7 reports.”
Even without receiving funding, the work went on for 2+ years.