Last week, the ICJ, the world's highest court, ordered Russia to immediately stop its war in Ukraine. Despite this ruling, Putin is still waging war.
So what does this decision actually mean? Will it change anything?
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So what does this decision actually mean? Will it change anything?
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Today on #TheDecibel: Harold Hongju Koh, one of the lawyers representing Ukraine in the case against Russia, explains the the arguments they brought forward, Russia’s response (or lack thereof), and makes the case for international law.
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Last week, the International Court of Justice ordered Russia to end the war. Were you surprised by that decision?
🔊 Koh: “We got a 13-2 ruling on key provisions; and 15-0 on an order not to aggravate the dispute. That's what we were hoping for.”
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🔊 Koh: “We got a 13-2 ruling on key provisions; and 15-0 on an order not to aggravate the dispute. That's what we were hoping for.”
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What was Russia's response to all of this?
🔊 Koh: “They couldn't get their act together to appear in the court. They had a group of lawyers representing them on another case, and they all quit – basically saying what Russia is doing is indefensible.”
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🔊 Koh: “They couldn't get their act together to appear in the court. They had a group of lawyers representing them on another case, and they all quit – basically saying what Russia is doing is indefensible.”
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Did they say that this was indefensible?
🔊 Koh: “They said Russia had a right to commit military action to prevent genocide, and therefore a right to recognize these paramilitary groups, the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republic, as independent states”
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🔊 Koh: “They said Russia had a right to commit military action to prevent genocide, and therefore a right to recognize these paramilitary groups, the Donetsk and Luhansk People's Republic, as independent states”
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🔊 Koh: Russia said they have "a right to defend themselves. This would be like if I said, if I was a mob boss, and I sent thugs into your house to steal things, and then when you respond, say I'm acting in the self-defense of the accomplices I sent to the house.”
🔊 Koh: “It’s a ludicrous argument. The court didn’t take it seriously.”
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What does it mean for the ICJ to order Russia to end the war?
🔊 Koh: “The point here is to create an order of illegality that makes Putin an outlaw. That's what's been achieved.”
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🔊 Koh: “The point here is to create an order of illegality that makes Putin an outlaw. That's what's been achieved.”
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🔊 Koh: “Putin is now an isolated outlaw in an interdependent world. Now, Putin cannot travel outside of Russia. He'll be arrested like (Augusto) Pinochet. He can't move his money. His children can't travel. His cronies – the oligarchs – can't move their money or their yachts.”
🔊 Koh: “Putin is being gradually isolated, his bargaining position is weakened, and as we move toward some kind of negotiation, he's alone.”
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🔊 Koh: “That's what the power of law is: It's a branding function. He's a pariah.
People say you can't enforce this order. That's wrong. Everybody can enforce this order. Every country that imposes sanctions on Putin is enforcing the order.”
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People say you can't enforce this order. That's wrong. Everybody can enforce this order. Every country that imposes sanctions on Putin is enforcing the order.”
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Today on #TheDecibel: Harold Hongju Koh, one of the lawyers representing Ukraine at the International Court of Justice, on what the court ordering Russia to end the war means
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