Elite women athletes are considerably stronger than the average cis man, and certainly the average trans woman.
The average height of the 2016 Rio Olympics women’s high jump podium was 6’1.7”. The 10th place woman in the final is 5’5”; the gold medallist is 6’3.6” and was the tallest in the competition.
The global average height for men is around 5’9”. Moreover, height is not uniformly distributed around the world. The average Dutch woman is 5’6.5”, whereas the average Indonesian woman is 4’10”.
We permit huge differences in natural physical traits within sport and call that “fair.” So even if we say that the average trans woman is 4” taller than the average cis woman, we already permit much larger height differences within women’s sport and call it fair.
This is true for any natural physical trait one selects, including endogenous T. And while there’s no evidence of a relationship between endogenous testosterone & performance, my point is that even if there were, it’s insufficient to justify excluding trans women.
Claims like “men are stronger than women” are, strictly speaking, false. There are many women who are stronger than many men.
These claims, instead, are either: the average man is stronger (taller/faster/etc) than the average woman; or the best man is stronger (taller/faster/etc) than the best woman.
At present, these latter claims are true. But both ellide the massive ranges within men and women. The shortest, weakest, slowest man is often the same as the shortest, weakest, and slowest woman.
We demonstrably permit competitive advantages within women’s sport that are far greater than 10-12%. ‘Fairness’ does not require that no athlete have a competitive advantage. In fact, that’s the entire purpose of training, coaching, equipment, nutrition, & so on.
And fairness does not require us to exclude those who have considerable performance advantages.
The default is inclusion, not exclusion. We don’t need ‘more study’ or ‘more evidence’ in order to decide to grant what is everyone’s human right: the right to participate in competitive sport.
So the scientific evidence is irrelevant. No competitive advantage that could ever be found to be attributed to trans women will be enough for an exclusionary policy to be both necessary and effective at promoting fairness in sport,...
Given the massive competitive advantages we already permit in women’s sport. The human rights argument is the one that controls this “debate.”
And there is no debate.
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It’s really disappointing seeing so many transphobes going all in against Lia Thomas because they saw a picture of her with a gold medal and saw some claim that she went from “462nd as a male (completely unsourced by the way,
I challenge you to actually find when she was ever ranked 462nd (which, to be perfectly clear, 462 out of ~11000 college male swimmers is still in the top 5%)to 1st as a female (winning first place in one event & losing two events at a meet with 21 events doesn’t rank you #1)”.
I would put money down that most of those attacking don’t know the results from the 2022 NCAA D1 Swimming & Diving Championships, and they have only probably only heard about this one event that Thomas won.
When I first transitioned everything was so exciting finally being able to wear the clothes & make up the shopping the body changes it was all so self absorbing.
I was so excited about these changes I started talking about my self in the 3rd person for a while, “look At Kirsti’s new handbag”. My three daughters nicknamed me Meagan which was short for me-again.
As a trans woman the journey your undertaking is such a difficult road especially at this point of our history as the transgender community we are being attacked more then ever from all fronts we seem to be the political pawn on both sides of politics.
10 years ago I was homeless living on the streets of Sydney after surviving a gang rape. I nearly gave up.
10 years on and I have almost 5000 beautiful friends.
Never give up you never know what tomorrow will bring❤️❤️
When I was homeless in 2011, I was given the most beautiful meal at the Sikh Temple in Gelnwood. It was the first day in 12 months that I felt completely safe and I was not being judged. I will be forever grateful for that day.
No one at the Temple cared that I was a transgender woman they didn't care if I wasn't bathed they just treated me kindly. I could not carry all the takeaway food that was given to me. I had survived a gang rape only a year before. The men at that Temple made me feel safe again.
There is no clear biological list of features that allow us to even remotely cleanly separate men from women.
Chromosomes? NOPE
Testosterone? NOPE
Height? NOPE
Vo2 Max? NOPE
Haemoglobin? NOPE
Weight? NOPE
Bone Density? NOPE
FUN FACT: Male and female muscle is the same strength when comparing equivalent cross section/size (Costill et al., 1976; Schantz et al., 1983). Something never considered by Hilton et al.
MORE FUN FAQ: Research finds trans women have bone density lower than natal males, natal females, and FtMs, as a group, BEFORE hormone therapy even begins (sample=711, FAR larger than any of the studies Hilton uses)
Hogshead-Makar , Hilton and Davies says that women like Semenya need to be kept out of competition to “give women’s bodies an equal opportunity to participate,” which isn’t true.
Hogshead-Makar has been arguing that South African runner Caster Semenya is not a woman. It began on, when Hogshead-Makar responded to a tweet about Semenya by saying “We must protect women’s sport for women’s bodies.”
White Privilege
At 51 seconds #SharronDavies claims #CasterSemenya was misdiagnosed as a child because she is from a 3rd world country. This is #Interphobia with a capital ’i’ from Davies.
The human rights framework controls this “debate.” The practice of sport is a human right (IOC Charter), sex is a matter of legal recognition (CAS), & trans women can be legally recognized as female. Therefore, trans women have a HR to participate in competitive sport as women.
Trans women don’t have to justify our inclusion. The burden of argument is entirely on those who seek to exclude us. And, as I’ll briefly prove, that burden has not yet been met, and is unlikely ever to be met.
There currently exists NO evidence to suggest that trans women who elect to suppress testosterone (through, for example, gender affirming hormone therapy and/or surgical gonad removal) maintain disproportionate advantages over cis women indefinitely.