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wow, what a Facebook read. On request of federal Judge, plaintiffs filed sanctions in super important case vs FB. Originally sealed 55pgs + 1,500 in exhibits, it showed up this wknd when FB filed redactions.
Let me show you the highlights - I'll try to keep to a dozen tweets. /1 ImageImage
It kicks off with a quote from the Partner for the law firm, Gibson Dunn, that has led the alleged discovery abuse to protect Facebook in its Cambridge Analytica cover-up. Same firm protecting FB in DC for a similar case and even in the Rhohingya genocide case. Nice choices. /2 Image
Unlike in DC where Gibson Dunn appeared to run a bulldozer over new judge with its narrative, NdCal Court isn't having any of it and requested plaintiffs file sanctions including remarkably against the partners at Gibson Dunn - a BFD. Plaintiffs kindly focused on Orin Snyder. /3 Image
Although plaintiffs point out, they're only filing a few examples of the discovery abuse, they pick some telling ones. It includes the math that they're 8 for 9 on discovery motions with one pending. They also go deep on a few of the most sensitive and furthest along examples. /4 Image
One is the App Developer Investigation ("ADI"). This is the audit Zuckerberg promised Congress FB would do to protect all of us. Gibson Dunn handled it and then resisted discovery even trying to keep two firms sealed that did the work (FTI Consulting and Stroz Friedberg). /5 Image
It's just a good example because Facebook's lawyers argued it would delay the case a year but then Orin Snyder at Gibson Dunn said no problem they would turn the docs over in 21 days once the Court had started to scorch them for discovery abuse. /6 Image
Another example is Facebook has been ordered to turn over all of the data on the 8 named plaintiffs including inference data from tracking people everywhere they go. Again, FB has argued it would be incredibly burdensome which flies in the case of California and EU law. /7 Image
Instead Facebook has tried to draw a line around a person's user data available when you click their "Download Your Information (DYI)" link. This is only a subset of activity understood to record maybe a site but not what you did on it for example. /8 Image
Facebook has tried to draw the line so they only have to turn over what data is actually "shared" with third parties. And of course, Facebook gets to define what "shared" even means. California AG's eyes should be bugging out here. Court again wants none of this BS argument. /9 Image
Here is where the Court lets Snyder and Gibson Dunn know (not for the first time) what her order meant. It was affirmed by the Special Master and the lead Judge on the case. Another reason for sanctions invitation. Is Facebook's surveillance even worse than we've known? /10 Image
ok, I've got two left. During the peak discovery abuse, Facebook had to bring an employee in to be deposed on behalf of the company on the topics they were resisting - this fella, Mr Pope. Sort of feel bad for him. According to plaintiffs, he admitted... well you read it. /11 Image
And as someone who has watched many hearings with Gibson Dunn FB team in NdCal and DC, again where these tactics seem to have unfortunately worked. Can you imagine representing an awful-except-for-the-$$$ client like Facebook, facing sanctions and telling plaintiffs this? /12 Image
Aaah heck, baker's dozen, here is a 13th tweet as it hits narrative by Gibson Dunn to protect Facebook in its cover-up. DC Superior Court was moving along in same direction but new 2022 Judge has pretty much gone all-in on the narrative even killing deposition of Zuckerberg. /13 Image
Here is a thread I did at the time of the hearing when the Court invited the sanctions. They've since even suggested maybe there should be terminating sanctions as the discovery abuse has been so bad. Facebook has a right to oppose so we'll see... /14
I really don't know what happened in DC. Facebook resisted forever finally turning over its privilege log in February with like 4,000 employees on it and clearly a ton of discovery that shouldn't be privileged. /15
Plaintiffs had also won ruling to have a deposition of Mark Zuckerberg. This is the same matter, Facebook is alleged to have paid off the FTC $5 billion to protect MZ against a deposition and he's dodged questions of Congress and Parliaments. BFD. /16
But then a few weeks ago, Gibson Dunn ran the same play they attempted in NdCal with a narrative that plaintiffs have been fishing too long, they've been cooperative and its time to shut down discovery. Which worked in DC. /17
OK, I'll send there but I wanted to make sure everyone had the full context. There is also a related massive shareholder suit in Delaware. @AlisonFrankel covered the sanctions request for Orin Snyder, Gibson Dunn and Facebook today. ht @MikeScarcella /eof reuters.com/legal/litigati…
Facebook's law firm filed its response last night to the sanctions request of its partner and Facebook. It's a ton of exhibits and transcripts. DM me if you want to dive into them but I didn't see much of interest beyond their attempts to avoid discovery on named plaintiff data. Image
for those who have watched the Cambridge Analytica cover-up over the years continue to play out, there was this mention by Facebook's lawyers claiming plaintiffs postponed depositions of Doug Purdy, Joseph Chancellor and Monika Bickert just last week. 👀 Image

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May 5
Department of Justice has now posted its hundreds of great slides from closing arguments. I’ll share 13 slides that tell story imho captured by this list.
First, if search defaults don’t matter, why pay approx $30B, 40% of revenue to maintain them? 1/13 Image
DOJ cleverly took this sentence from the DC circuit opinion in U.S. vs Microsoft and replaced it with Google’s search defaults story in red. “Fits like a glove” as they said to Court on Friday. Hard to argue. 2/13 Image
The story on importance of Google’s data harvesting to monopoly maintenance was crystal clear so let’s move on to how DOJ alleges Google was able to use its market power to impact ad prices which drive much of their revenues. 3/13 Image
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May 1
There is a report going around Apple is going to facilitate blocking of ads in Safari - it deserves your attention. Meanwhile, I want to connect dots w/ a number of redactions lifted (yellow) late last night in the post-trial docs of US v Google - closing arguments are tmw. /1 Image
It's critical to understand the importance of Safari to their Google deal under microscope. It's reasonable to say Safari delivers nearly 20% of Apple's Income from Ops almost entirely subsidized by Google. Without Safari, there is no Google deal. /2 Image
As the expert witness in the trial pointed out, there isn't a rational explanation for a 40% revenue share on traffic that Google's proxies argue would happen without Apple. But hey, maybe that cash also pays for special influence into Safari's roadmap, too? /3 Image
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Apr 11
!!!!! just unsealed, and higher than prior news reports. /1 Image
we learned last Fall in a different G lawsuit (NdCal) during widely reported testimony the number 36% as the share Google paid Apple to be locked in as default search across Apple's surfaces.
But now this was just unsealed from the two key contracts (here is 2014 which even then was 37.5%) /2Image
Here are the various Google and Apple contracts where those screen caps originate. /3 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…
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Mar 26
Whoa. Facebook had a secret "Project Ghostbusters" (get it?) which allegedly was to decrypt "man-in-the-middle" style Snapchat traffic to copy it. Yellow highlight indicates redactions just lifted in nine unsealed plaintiffs briefs in private antitrust lawsuit. Wild stuff. /1 Image
A lot of new stuff. There was lots of reporting (including Apple threats to boot Facebook) at the time on Facebook's software and Onavo acquisition allowing it to "spy" on competitive apps but I recall the decryption was written as a hypothetical. CEO email kickstarting it. /2 Image
You can read the press back in Jan 2019 spoon fed by Facebook PR to friendlies with no mentions of decrypting SSL then compare to this internal email below sent to Facebook's most senior executives - "currently includes SSL decryption"... /3 Image
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Mar 14
TikTok? Y’all are crazy. Yes, it’s a huge problem but hypocrisy. Last year after Facebook worked years to keep it sealed, a court unsealed its secret app audit. It showed 86,961 developers in China had access to all of our personal data…yet crickets. /1 storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.usco…
This is the same app audit Zuckerberg promised Congress after concerns American’s personal data had been readily mined in Russia. Throw in Iran, North Korea, you name it. Press didn’t dig in. A good source told me DOJ and Congress hadn’t ever even seen this forensic audit. /2
Yet Facebook had spent four years trying very hard to keep even the names of the forensic auditing / clean-up firms confidential. Senate Intel Chairs did send a letter, no word on whether Facebook even responded to them. /3
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Mar 14
ok, I've now read the NYT response this week to attempts by OpenAI to dismiss NYT's landmark lawsuit against the high-flying AI company.
Put simply, NYT makes it brutally clear on page one how you can tell the difference between the two companies.
Oomph. /1 Image
A few other observations from me. Like NYT's original complaint, it's smart and future-focused on fair value. Where OpenAI made frankly bizarre claims NYT was hacking the platform as it detected OpenAI had its content, NYT is right. OpenAI isn't and can't dispute it copied it. /2 Image
Um, 2022 > 2020 = TRUE. Where OpenAI tried to inject a statute-of-limitations argument that OpenAI's lifting of content was "common knowledge" in 2020, NYT points out that ChatGPT and OpenAI didn't go viral until Nov 2022. /3 Image
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