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Apr 6 22 tweets 5 min read
Omicron is far more dangerous than the Flu.

Many have bought into the “Covid is now like the Flu” narrative.

So here’s the science without the scientific jargon.

Judge for yourself.

TLDR: Like for Like - IFR X 6 Flu; Mortality risk X 32 Flu.
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For the purpose of comparing deaths from one disease to another it doesn’t matter too much what method you use to calculate deaths, it is simply important to use the same methods.
Broadly speaking there are two methods. One looks at total number of infections and then how often that infection is mentioned on death certificates. It then gives a percentage - 100 infections with 1 death = 1% fatality rate. This is known as the Infection Fatality Rate or IFR.
The other way is to use modelling studies. This is particularly helpful when the infection isn’t tested for very much. When data is not available these studies are often used to estimate total number of ‘infection-associated’ deaths.
Typically both methods have their downfalls. Prevalence studies tend to under-estimate the ‘real’ mortality as death certificates are likely to miss deaths and it is difficult to capture ‘total’ number of infections. Modelling studies tend to over-estimate.
The crucial point is, you cannot use a modelling study and compare it to prevalence studies.

“The total numbers of deaths generated from the two methods cannot be compared.”

eurosurveillance.org/content/10.280…
We can in the UK (and other countries) measure Covid deaths through prevalence studies and calculate a reasonably accurate IFR…that is we have a good idea how many infections there are and legally binding death certificates.
IFR of an infection is typically calculated over a season or year. If we calculate IFR at the end of a season (esp. if reinfections occur), then it will be lower as the population has some immunity to that strain or some have died from it already.
Nonetheless, one can still calculate a population level IFR based on the most recent prevalence study, albeit it is likely a less stable estimate. Currently the IFR of Covid is around 0.035%.
What does this mean exactly? It is easy to see why the comparison to Flu has been used. For most of us a 0.035% IFR means very little. We know flu, somewhat. IFR of flu varies, but in 2019 we know there were 1223 deaths with influenza mentioned on the death certificate.
We don’t know how many cases of Flu there were during 2019 (unbelievably!). But generally, influenza infects about 30% of the population over the year (but up to 65% some seasons). This makes the IFR of influenza 0.006% (or as low as 0.0027%).

academic.oup.com/jid/article/21…
So, when using the same methods, the lethality (IFR) of Covid in the UK over the population as a whole is X 6 higher than the flu.
So does that mean the risk of dying from Covid is six times higher than it would be during a typical flu season? I’m afraid not…
IFR does not tell us the actual risk posed by SARS2. It tells us the individual risk once we contract SARS2. The risk to self is both the risk of catching the virus and then the risk of death or disability once you have the virus.
For example, endemic Malaria has an IFR of 0.22%, but if you stay in the UK your chance of death from it is almost zero. How likely you are to catch the infection is often more important than how lethal it is once you get it.
In basic terms, we can see the increased risk of SARS2 by simply examining how many more people are dying with Covid than would normally during a flu season. Around 3.4 deaths per day (avg.) occur from influenza (death certificates) and around 110 per day from Covid.
So, on a population level there is X 32 greater chance of dying from Covid than Flu (during a typical season) at the current moment in the UK. This will change based on how high infection rates are.
And unlike the flu, Covid confers an equal increase in risk to all adults (no data about kids in this study).

bmjopen.bmj.com/content/bmjope…
These estimates remain imperfect. We test more for Covid than Flu, even during a typical flu season, and there are the unknown effects of contributory deaths (i.e Covid causing an embolus or Flu causing a pneumonia).
But, for the purpose of trying to communicate risk of SARS2, the X 32 estimate is close to reality. For what we experience as Flu - unpleasant, rarely fatal ‘except’ to the elderly -, SARS2 is much, much more dangerous to the general public.
Science and Medicine has made huge progress. The IFR of Covid in the UK in 2020 has been estimated at 0.69%. There has been a ~20 X reduction in the risk of death - thanks to vaccines and treatments.

thelancet.com/journals/lance…
But as we all make our own decisions about what risks to take - masks, vaccines, self-isolation…- we should do so understanding the real-world risk of SARS2. With an IFR likely > X6 of Flu and the high chance of catching it, Covid remains the most dangerous infection in the UK.

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Apr 8
The Week In Covid

A look at what's happened with Covid this week. Excuse the abundance of sarcasm - it's been a tough week for truth and logic!

#TheWeekInCovid
1. Hancock (the UK’s former Health Secretary) made the news again this week, in what I initially thought was a psychology experiment testing ‘just how much BS will the public take’.
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Update from the frontline.

It's not pretty I'm afraid.

My experience and those of colleagues up and down the country suggest the NHS pressures are cumulative not sporadic...
It is relentless. Staff levels are low and patient load is high, very high. I have never seen levels as high as this for as long as this. It's been about a year now with no lull. The "Winter in Summer" has just morphed into the "Winter all year long".
Covid remains a bane of inpatient care. I estimate about 20% of work is taken up by Covid. ~15% of patients have Covid. There is also the huge effort to get anti-virals and antibody therapies to the high-risk groups. This all takes the few resources we have away from others.
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One of the most effective PR stunts of the pandemic is convincing the public Covid is “only” a threat to the elderly and vulnerable.

It’s partly why the Flu narrative is so effective.

But reality is quite different…
Indeed, with extra boosters & anti-virals for >65s/CEVs and a falling vax uptake in under 65s, the proportional risk increase may be higher for the 30-65yr non-CEV groups.

I will explain…
We have known for some time that in an unvaccinated population the increase in the chance of dying from Covid is the same for pretty much all adults.

The pivotal BMJ Swiss study showed a X 8 increase in risk of death with Covid across all the age groups studied (>35yrs) vs 2019.
Read 14 tweets
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This Week In Covid.

1. To the surprise of pretty much no sane person, another wave of Covid took hold this week. On the flip-side, the 5th (or is it 6th?) wave in two years served another dose of reality...

#TheWeekInCovid
...to the paper-thin ‘seasonality’ argument. Hang in there, it may be right one day. As they say, even a biased scientist is right twice a day….or is it a ‘broken watch’…or a ‘broken record’?
2. Either way, after two years of being repeatedly wrong about (1) mass infection - turns out getting an infection to prevent an infection wasnt such a good idea -, (2) herd immunity - seems high school textbooks were right all along and viruses can mutate -,
Read 23 tweets
Mar 25
Unbelievably, many politicians, policy makers and journalists actually believe Omicron is less fatal than the flu.

Yes, there is wilful misinformation. But this is something else. Actual ignorance.

Despite the fact no scientist, statistician or clinician has made such claims,..
...no journal or scientific paper has published such claims and no-one of even modest reputation will ever stand by such a claim, round and round the stories go.

We know Omicron is far more deadly than the flu.
This is fact. Even if you are a staunch ‘Covid is Mild’ advocate, ask whatever expert you like: Is Omicron more deadly than the flu? You will either receive a simple Yes, or a more protracted, qualified yes. The answer though, will always be yes.
Read 16 tweets
Mar 24
Just heard @BBCRadio4 state: Is there any point in NHS staff testing for Covid when this strain is LESS dangerous than the flu!!!!

Less dangerous strain than the FLU!?!?

Hugely irresponsible and completely wrong.

Does the @BBCNews actually believe this?
Omicron is much more fatal than the Flu…much, much more fatal. No debate here.

When triple jabbed and with access to clinical care the mortality rate is considerably less.

There are some estimating Covid to have a lower IFR (infection fatality rate), but this is not even…
…through scientific debate yet. No government scientist I am aware of has reported Covid, even if fully vaccinated, to have an IFR of flu.

All the BBC have done here is increase complacency based on fake-news (sorry, no other word for it). Vaccine hesitancy will increase…
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