Thread by @901ff7

I got in some Discord discussions about how to think about "horny" and now I'm curious if Twitter (in particular the @ben_r_hoffman @jessi_cata discourse crew) has different perspectives:

@ben_r_hoffman @jessi_cata "observably, devoutly christian young adults who really genuinely are trying to save themselves for marriage end up having impulsive sex and feeling terrible about it later, like, all the time":

I can imagine this happening if there's some cultural dysfunction that makes people unable to take responsibility for their future self and plan around this. Or if people consciously follow some authority, but subconsciously sabotage it/themselves.

But does this happen even without those factors? Is there some force that makes people have sex that they believe is very unethical, or sex that they believe will have net negative consequences for them, even if they psychologically prepare to resist this force?

If yes, what fraction of the population will encounter this thing? (I've never encountered it myself, so I'm trying not to be biased by that.) Is that fraction constant between cultures, and if not, what explains the differences?

How should I think about teenage pregnancy rates? Are they just driven by contraceptive access + how bad it is to get pregnant as a teen in a given culture? Are they mainly driven by the cultural issues I described? Are they driven by something else?

cw rape

Does this thing also cause people to commit rape even when they're genuinely trying not to? If not, why not; if someone thinks both rape and certain consensual sex are gravely immoral, what's the psychological difference that means they'll do one but not the other?

(I don't think answering "yes" is the same thing as excusing rape. Nevertheless, if this question makes it iffy for you to answer the other ones, feel free to DM me)