here's a CRAZY story about a post on a niche internet subforum that resulted in at least one billionaire (yes with a *B*), and several deca-millionaire degenerates...
Subject: Bitcoins - digital currency
04-02-2011, 02:44 AM
"Any value to this idea or will it never work?"
from 2000-2015, the Two Plus Two poker forums were the primary hangout for professional poker players. i made countless friends through 2+2.
it's hard to overstate how busy these forums were. 24/7 there was a ton of activity discussing everything from poker hands to politics.
one of my favorite subcategories on 2+2 was "Business Finance and Investing"
BFI had posts about everything from real estate to day trading.
on April 2nd, 2011 the legendary "Bitcoins - digital currency" thread was started...
"Any value to this idea or will it never work?"
by the time this thread was posted, I was a BFI regular and had a lot of respect for the regulars' advice on business and investing.
i specifically remember coming home from a vacation, firing up 2+2 and seeing the Bitcoin thread...
it already had several hundred replies.
i read the first page or two. it seemed a little crazy, and it already had soooo many replies. catching up to the recent activity would take a few hours.
i thought to myself "eh i dunno if i want to read through pages and pages of this, next topic"
HUGE mistake lol
to invest in Bitcoin in 2011, you needed to possess an odd overlap of interests in:
math
economics
technology
politics
and a willingness to fire $ at crazy things on the internet...
online poker pros were perfectly suited for this
of course, there was plenty of debate both for and against Bitcoin.
here are a few of my favorite bear posts...
"What the ****?" 😂
one forum regular posted:
"Can somebody send me a pittance on 1KD5XJy1RVrokUWQ4AR7mh5Nw1MZDeekdt ?"
they were promptly sent 5.67 BTC by others in the thread to play around with (now worth about $220k 😆)
reading the early posts in this thread, the foresight this group of degens had is so impressive.
many of the predictions on how Bitcoin would play out are eerily accurate.
people were setting up mining rigs and trading. they became early adopters of NFTs, Defi, and more.
i don't want to blow up anyone's spot... but there are a few people from this poker era that amassed a STAGGERING amount of Bitcoin (3 commas worth for sure).
it's no surprise that many of the top traders, investors, and thought leaders of Crypto have a background in poker.
venture capitalist @pmarca has a saying like [poorly paraphrased] "invest in what the nerds do on nights and weekends"
being part of BFI and firing into Bitcoin at 70 cents is a perfect example.
also a good example of one of my favorite life principles: "luck is a skill" 🎲
be curious. be open minded. surround yourself with those who are
sometimes i've done this well. sometimes i haven't. like passing on Bitcoin at 70 cents 🤣
luckily, 2 years later i got a second chance when the first BTC poker sites opened up. another crazy story for another day
i still keep in touch with plenty of poker players who read this thread in 2011. some bought BTC, some didn't.
imo, the moral of the story is: be curious and shoot your shot when opportunities present.
you have to take action. can't sit on the sidelines. nothing is a sure bet.
the original "Bitcoins - digital currency" thread has 48,352 replies and over 4 million views.
you can take a look at this piece of poker and crypto history here:
i loved this ep because Dan told so many stories and used specific numbers for each topic, rather than just talking about things in theory.
some interesting themes they covered...
@cmsholdings@ericgoldenx 1. $USDT - Tether Truthers loves to hound on the idea that billons of USDT is printed out of thin air to pump the crypto markets.
1. buy cheap BTC with USDT on overseas exchanges like Bitfinex 2. sell it at a higher price on Coinbase for USD 3. use the USD proceeds to mint USDT 4. repeat
i've heard from a lot of poker players asking for advice on moving on to start a business.
this quote always comes to mind:
"i know lots of extremely rich people. plenty of them are solo operators. plenty of them are happy people. but there is no overlap between the two groups"
* bought a 6 figure domain name in 2011
* got insanely lucky to get bailed out ten years later
* cemented my number 1 rule of investing: value liquidity above all else...
back in 2011, a friend-of-a-friend was trying to sell a domain name he had owned for a long time.
i can't say the actual URL, but think something like "animated.com"
i had ZERO experience buying domain names.
but just two months earlier, all of the top online poker sites had exited the USA market in what's known in the poker world as Black Friday (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St…)
as a mostly online, American poker pro, i was scrambling trying to figure out what to do.
some key points and my thoughts on a few of them...
1.) Zhu: Ethereum maximalism is much more dangerous for ETH than Bitcoin maximalism is for BTC.
Couldn't agree more. Bitcoin doesn't really need to "do" anything to win as the leading store of value. If Ethereum wants to win as a tech product, maximalism is a weak approach.
I love Ethereum. I use it a lot, along with plenty of other chains too.
The smart contract space is moving so fast, with so much innovation.
Writing off anything non-Ethereum (when new users clearly love L1s like AVAX, SOL, MATIC, LUNA etc) is going to lead to huge blind spots.