@HMCTSgovuk 2. It's bizarre and counter-productive for a court that is very committed to open justice (and - whatever its failings - delivers on it better than most other parts of the justice system) to put out the message that half of its hearings are "PRIVATE".
3. More than half of the hearings in the COP listing on CourtServe today say hearings are "PRIVATE".
Only one (as far as I can tell) would actually exclude observers - because it's a Dispute Resolution Hearing.
Observers are not being deliberately excluded from the others.
4. This hearing says (in capitals) "IN PRIVATE NOT OPEN TO PUBLIC".
Then the small print at the bottom says we can ask to observe it.
Does anyone else think this is ... odd?
5. A "PRIVATE" hearing in Birmingham.
But in the small print it says we can ask to observe it.
Why put up a great big "no entry" sign if you don't mean it?
This sends a contradictory message. Is it private or not?
(Spoiler - the public *can* observe!)
6. I observed this 'PRIVATE" hearing today.
The judge was welcoming and helpful - gave a clear opening summary and ensured I could access position statements.
Why would the court choose to brand a hearing as PRIVATE when it self-evidently wasn't.
I'll blog about it later.
7. I am pretty sure observers would have been admitted to this hearing in Port Talbot, also branded "PRIVATE"
The Court of Protection is much more open than it seems from the listings.
It's actually a #NotSecretCourt - but you wouldn't know that from the lists!
I've observed lots of remote hearings labelled "PRIVATE" from First Avenue House London
But I know "PRIVATE" doesn't mean I can't observe
Most members of the public don't know that
Branding as "PRIVATE" has a chilling effect on open justice
Not what the COP intends at all.
@HMCTSgovuk 9. These two "PRIVATE" hearings look identically "private"
But I know (most members of the public don't) we're almost certainly allowed to observe a pre-trial review, but we're definitely not allowed to observe a Dispute Resolution Hearing.
Why not say so in the listings?
@HMCTSgovuk 10. It's absolutely standard routine practice for many Court of Protection hearings (especially remote ones - those most accessible to many people who might like to observe!) to be branded "PRIVATE".
11. All this "PRIVATE" branding is really an 'own goal' for the Court of Protection. It's not the message they want to promote.
We *can* (and do) observe many "PRIVATE" hearings.
Please @HMCTSgovuk can we dispense with the "PRIVATE" branding. It's so misleading.
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There were reasons for branding hearings as "PRIVATE" when they first went on line at the beginning of the pandemic.
It's time to rethink, so that the listings reflect the fundamental commitments to transparency + open justice of the #NotSecretCourt.
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@OpenJusticeCoP @JennyKitzinger @DMThornicroft 22/ I'm continuing this thread from my own account (tho' it was me who wrote the 21 tweets above from @OpenJusticeCoP) because watching today's hearing was a challenging experience + we don't all agree either about what happened or what we think/feel about it.
They believe Laura has capacity to make her own decisions about residence,care+ contact.
The family's expert, Dr Jessica Eccles @drbendybrain had submitted a report saying L had capacity for these decision.
In court, she changed her mind
@OpenJusticeCoP @JennyKitzinger @DMThornicroft Dr Eccles has extensive clinical and research experience on hypermobility (incl. Ehlers-Danlos) and neurodivergence. There's lots of info about her publicly available, including podcasts and YouTube videos she's linked to from her website.
A thread about a hearing in the COP today before MacDonald J 🧵
At 8.30am tomorrow (Friday 16 December 2022) a hospital will carry out a court-authorised caesarean on a 32 year-old woman, 34 weeks pregnant, with placental insufficience + growth retardation.
She's a failed asylum seeker who was in prison for a violent offence immediately prior to her admission to hospital, and before that street-homeless. Urgent application from the Trust (Vikram Sachdeva KC). P represented by David Lawson via the OS.
She's never refused the caesarean and doesn't seem to object to it - but the application was made because clinicians believe she doesn't have capacity to consent, and may withdraw assent to a caesarean (as she's withdrawn assent to other interventions).
It's all very beautiful but it's minus 6 here (at 2pm) and we've both got chest infections and the boiler packed up overnight so I'm gratefully sitting in a sleeping bag by the wood-burning stove and waiting for a repair man.....
An hour with the boiler man. Emptied out store cupboard + took back off. Ice backed up behind cupboard + has split pipe. Tried hot water + hairdryer to melt ice. No luck. No replacement elbow. Water now dripping slowly into bucket.
The good news is the boiler is (sort of) working again. The bad news is we need repairs including possibly a new hole thru outside wall for new condensate pipe... What a lot I've learnt about plumbing that I could have done without. No repairs until weather is above freezing. 🙁
"It’s extraordinary to me that a court with transparency as a central philosophical principle produces court listings entirely unsuited to delivering on its stated objectives"
2. For months, I've been talking with people at Court of Protection User Group meetings, managers, administrators and judges about the problem with the court lists. They've been concerned + moves are afoot to get the lists right. But so far, I'm not seeing improvements.
Every month or so, I do a systematic analysis of all the Court of Protection hearings listed for a given day.
Most hearings are in the County Courts + listed in @CourtServe (a public site anyone can use) under "County Courts" tab.
Court of Protection listings are still a long way from supporting the judiciary's aspirations for transparency in the #NotSecretCourt
2. I don't doubt the judiciary's commitment to open justice and transparency - and I believe it is shared by most Court of Protection judges and lawyers, and understood by most court staff.
And yet....
3. There should be a single list of all county court Court of Protection hearings in one place - under the "Court of Protection" heading in CourtServe.
A thread about listings in the "private" Court of Protection
This week some would-be observers contacted me to say the COP hearings in their regional court were all being held "in private" so they couldn't observe them.
How could they find some "public" ones?
Many COP hearings (sometimes *most* of them) are listed as "in private" and "not open to public".
I know the court doesn't mean to say we can't observe them, but most people don't know that. Why should they?
It's a huge obstacle to open justice to list hearings as "private".
Listing COP hearings as "private" is very common.
Do you want to guess how many of the 23 hearings listed in CourtServe for tomorrow (16th May 2022) are listed as "private".