@HMCTSgovuk 2. It's bizarre and counter-productive for a court that is very committed to open justice (and - whatever its failings - delivers on it better than most other parts of the justice system) to put out the message that half of its hearings are "PRIVATE".
3. More than half of the hearings in the COP listing on CourtServe today say hearings are "PRIVATE".
Only one (as far as I can tell) would actually exclude observers - because it's a Dispute Resolution Hearing.
Observers are not being deliberately excluded from the others.
4. This hearing says (in capitals) "IN PRIVATE NOT OPEN TO PUBLIC".
Then the small print at the bottom says we can ask to observe it.
Does anyone else think this is ... odd?
5. A "PRIVATE" hearing in Birmingham.
But in the small print it says we can ask to observe it.
Why put up a great big "no entry" sign if you don't mean it?
This sends a contradictory message. Is it private or not?
(Spoiler - the public *can* observe!)
6. I observed this 'PRIVATE" hearing today.
The judge was welcoming and helpful - gave a clear opening summary and ensured I could access position statements.
Why would the court choose to brand a hearing as PRIVATE when it self-evidently wasn't.
I'll blog about it later.
7. I am pretty sure observers would have been admitted to this hearing in Port Talbot, also branded "PRIVATE"
The Court of Protection is much more open than it seems from the listings.
It's actually a #NotSecretCourt - but you wouldn't know that from the lists!
I've observed lots of remote hearings labelled "PRIVATE" from First Avenue House London
But I know "PRIVATE" doesn't mean I can't observe
Most members of the public don't know that
Branding as "PRIVATE" has a chilling effect on open justice
Not what the COP intends at all.
@HMCTSgovuk 9. These two "PRIVATE" hearings look identically "private"
But I know (most members of the public don't) we're almost certainly allowed to observe a pre-trial review, but we're definitely not allowed to observe a Dispute Resolution Hearing.
Why not say so in the listings?
@HMCTSgovuk 10. It's absolutely standard routine practice for many Court of Protection hearings (especially remote ones - those most accessible to many people who might like to observe!) to be branded "PRIVATE".
11. All this "PRIVATE" branding is really an 'own goal' for the Court of Protection. It's not the message they want to promote.
We *can* (and do) observe many "PRIVATE" hearings.
Please @HMCTSgovuk can we dispense with the "PRIVATE" branding. It's so misleading.
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There were reasons for branding hearings as "PRIVATE" when they first went on line at the beginning of the pandemic.
It's time to rethink, so that the listings reflect the fundamental commitments to transparency + open justice of the #NotSecretCourt.
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A thread about listings in the "private" Court of Protection
This week some would-be observers contacted me to say the COP hearings in their regional court were all being held "in private" so they couldn't observe them.
How could they find some "public" ones?
Many COP hearings (sometimes *most* of them) are listed as "in private" and "not open to public".
I know the court doesn't mean to say we can't observe them, but most people don't know that. Why should they?
It's a huge obstacle to open justice to list hearings as "private".
Listing COP hearings as "private" is very common.
Do you want to guess how many of the 23 hearings listed in CourtServe for tomorrow (16th May 2022) are listed as "private".
Hayden J is proposing hearing the case now - both counsel want to adjourn. "For a multitude of reasons" says Debra Powell QC (for the OS). She'll present reasons why capacity decision shouldn't be made now after lunch break. Restarting 1.40pm.
Referring to 1(3) MCA 2005, Hayden comments "it's possible to overcook- Is all this NECESSARY to decide capacity?"
Counsel responds sharply "In my respectful submission My Lord, oral evidence from a consultant psychiatrist who has recently assessed her capacity is NECESSARY"
P was quoted by P as saying that she wants a vaginal delivery - and if she has to have a caesarean she wants it with a epidural and her partner present. Her least favoured birth option is a caesarean under general anaesthetic (which is what I think the Trust has applied for)
Hearing before Hayden J just starting. As public observers we have to be flexible - judges are hearing multiple cases and timing is a challenge. #NotSecretCourt
Another challenging case of a pregnant woman with schizophrenia and doctors requesting c-section, although she said some weeks ago, when she had capacity, that she'd prefer a vaginal delivery. #NotSecretCourt