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May 30 59 tweets 10 min read
Made a transcript with rough timestamps of Vox addressing the situation regarding Reimu and his fans. It's mainly for reference. I have mixed feelings on it.
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Vod link this comes from:
31:54
I guess now that I’ve brought it up, I should say something. And I was nervous to do something because I did not want to give poor Reimu any more grief than she has already had. She is one of my best friends. She’s been really lovely to me.
Has spent a bunch of time helping me out when I’ve been down and has also spent a bunch of time collabing with me. She’s my friend! She’s my friend. And it breaks my fucking heart to see any of you going and giving her any kind of grief whatsoever.
32:25
So here’s the clarification, right. I do agree with some kindred that I think that it was a poor choice to try and message me during the stream. Normally this would be completely fine, but ASMR streams are kind of a different thing.
I’m trying to play a character, trying to act, and it was a little distracting. And so when she did that, I don’t think it was at all her fault because I never told her directly, “Don’t do that.” That wasn’t her fault and normally it would be okay.
I could see why some people were a little peeved by it. And you know, I was a little peeved by it as well. And there were some people who brought that up in a really normal and respectful manner and they said “Oh it wasn’t really good on this one…”
But I also don’t blame her for that because she just didn’t know. She just didn’t know.
33:15
That’s where the discussion should have begun and ended. She didn’t know and it really wasn’t that big of a deal. And I turned it into something really funny on the stream. I turned it into something hilarious and you should’ve been like “Oh haha!” and then moved on.
But some people clearly didn’t, and it really fucking pissed me off to see the amount of people who was somehow thinking that by sending death threats to Reimu that they were impressing me. That they were somehow like, “Oh yes, I’m gonna stick up for Milord and do what’s right.”
No! No, you’re not doing a good thing. And you’re not sticking up for me.
33:57
First of all, I’m insulted by the fact that you don’t think I could stick up for my fucking self. I’m insulted by the fact that you feel the need to attack somebody on my behalf. And moreover, don’t send death threats to my fucking friends.
You shouldn’t harass anybody in any way, shape, or form. But moreover, I’m going to take personal issue with it if you do that to anyone that I care about even remotely... Just don’t fucking do it at all.
34:38
And it breaks my heart that I actually need to address this because it should go without fucking saying. It should go without saying that you don’t do that, right? And I didn’t bring it up originally because I thought that that this issue—that people would be sensible.
And I’d like to believe that all of you are sensible enough not to do that. I would like to believe that you are sensible enough to leave me friends alone but apparently some of you aren’t. So don’t do it, alright?
35:15
And this may surprise some of you, but I would also like to criticize the people who have been engaging in discourse around this subject because you are only making these trolls more powerful.
Generally, when it comes to online drama/discourse/controversy, it is perpetuated by discussion. And yes, in some instances, it can be good to discuss these issues. But when you talk about it, it’s only going to make these people more powerful.
Here I am. Listen, I already feel like I’ve done the wrong thing and it’s why it took me so long to say anything. Because I’m being so reluctant to address these issues because I know I’m making these people more powerful.
36:02
I’ve now devoted an entire maybe 10 minutes of this stream purely to addressing 4 or 5 fucking people who decided to be assholes. They don’t deserve that much attention. They don’t deserve that. But it’s not just them who forced my hand. I’m sorry but it’s also kind of you.
It’s also everyone who has begged me to address every tiny little thing that happens. Says, “He should address this” or “His career is going to crash and burn if he doesn’t address this.” No, it fucking won’t!
I’m very well fucking aware of what I am or am not allowed to do and what I should or should not address. Do not micromanage my career because I know full well what I should be doing and you don’t. Okay?
36:49
I’ve already said that you should leave trolls alone and you haven’t done it. So listen to what I’m saying, do what I tell you, don’t give them attention. And if you are one of the very few people acting up, don’t send death threats to my friends.
Because if you do, you’re not a kindred, you’re a fuckhead and I don’t like you.
37:25
So deeply fucking embarrassed to have so many of you acting in this way. So please, don’t talk to them, don’t engage with them, and just end of story. Be sensible and remember that the more you address drama and the more you engage with it—
bearing in mind every single fucking time that somebody sends something really cringe or weird and you quote tweet 700 times “dunking on them”—not only is that honestly a massive waste of your very valuable time, but also you are making sure that more people see that shit tweet!
It is getting more traction because YOU are giving it attention. Stop. I know it’s fun in a twisted way to engage in drama and to argue with people, but it does not help. It actively hurts me. If you want to help, don’t do fucking anything at all, alright? End of story.
38:36
Just be sensible. It pisses me off when people treat online drama like it’s some kind of a great war. It’s not that deep. It’s not that fucking deep. Touch some fucking grass. Go outside.
Remember what I say: You’re welcome to treat this stream any way that you like as long as you find something in real life that’s just as important. Because to be honest, I think a lot of you are taking this way too fucking seriously.
39:34
I’m sick and tired of having the name “kindred” be dragged through the mud so often. And I don’t think it’s the fault of any of you. And yeah I know it is hard. And it makes me nervous because I don’t want to be the center of discourse.
40:44
There are a lot of things we can do to solve this situation and it begins with not just being good, and it begins with not doing all of those terrible things you know you shouldn’t do, but it also begins with just letting this active discussion die.
As soon as these people stop getting talked about and stop getting attention, they will stop. And the end result is that no more of my friends get harassed. And that seems like a pretty clear win to me.
41:26
Yeah, I hope they do understand what “Milord” means. It means that I get to tell you what the fuck to do. Listen to me when I’m saying it because if we were back in ancient times where I’m from, I could have you executed. I’d do it myself.
42:28
So yes, in conclusion—I shouldn’t have to say this but I will—don’t send death threats to anybody, least of all my friends. Second of all, don’t bring drama up in my chat and then start complaining when you get timed out because it’s against the fucking rules.
And last of all, if someone sends something dumb online, just ignore them. The more you interact with them, the more power they have.
Are we in agreement? Wholesome group hug? Absolutely, because I still love you guys to absolute death and back and I wouldn’t trade you for the world. No amount of random controversy is going to make me change the way I feel about you.
44:11
Everyone has a bigger part to play in these issues than I think they really ever realize. And it does annoy me tremendously when people think that by treating everything as a straight “yes” or “no,” or “I’m good” or “you’re bad,” that you’re actually solving anything.
Because you’re making it worse. You really are making it worse if you treat this like your opportunity. Because that’s exactly what the trolls are doing. They’re seeing it as their opportunity to be the good guy and to be important for once. That’s all it is.
And if you suddenly start doing that, then you’re no better than they are. If by responding to the haters and giving them a load of attention makes you feel better, then I’m sorry but that’s done so out of selfishness and you need to do better.
45:36
It does really piss me off because it’s a load of just aggressive yelling at people who have done something that isn’t even MY FAULT. Let’s be honest, right? I didn’t do fucking anything yesterday! I did my ASMR stream and I responded to a random occurrence in a funny way.
And all of a sudden, I’m responsible for having to do this. If you’re a fan of me, that has to make you upset in some way that you caused this. Going on Twitter and no matter how right you think you are and begging me to address something—Yes, you are making it worse.
46:30
Another reason why it took me so long to say anything is that I didn’t do anything! Normally I feel like I have some culpability but this time, I just did a stream and suddenly people started going off. It’s deeply frustrating to always be involved in this.
And I don’t want my channel to become something that’s always drowning in discourse.
47:55
I often get scared of addressing issues because we, as entertainers, are made by our fans. We are given value by our fans. So it would make sense that I should have a little bit of hesitation when it comes to yelling at and cussing out my fans for doing something wrong.
I owe everything to you guys, so why wouldn’t I be scared when I’m trying to tell you off? I don’t want to say something wrong and suddenly lose you all.
But I think over time—now that I’ve had to do this quite a few times because we seem to be at the core of a lot of these issues—I think that what it really does is it makes you all respect me. And you should.
48:54
At the end of the day, nothing is going to fucking change around here. I am still making the content that I want to make. That will never change. And if you’re well-behaved and follow the rules, you are more than welcome you to be whoever you want to be as long as you keep-
it here. I love you all very much, very, very deeply and that will not change no matter how much of this shit happens. Although if you decide to break the rules, I might stop loving you individually and I know you wouldn’t want that. So obey the fucking rules.
49:48
“Chat: Can’t please everyone.” No, that’s true. So I’m just gonna keep pleasing you guys. Doing what I can to please the groups of you that I already have. Because you’re the ones that I really did fall in love with. The ones that made me cry when I hit 700k.
The ones that made all of those lovely fan projects. There’s no reason why I should change what I’m doing. I will not. That’s a pretty hard and fast rule. If you don’t like what I make, fuck off. Go and watch someone else.
51:43
Yeah, god, it’s fucking frustrating. People have just started scapegoating on kindreds as a whole. One or two bad apples have done a couple of things and suddenly it gives everybody a bad name when I know all of you are fucking amazing.
I know all of you are really dedicated, lovely fans who wouldn’t dare do something as terrible as sending death threats or engaging in drama. But here we are. I still need to be the one to say it because apparently some people just can’t draw the distinction.
Internet drama is just that powerful. It’s that exciting for people to get to engage in what they feel like is their opportunity to show the world that they’re a good guy or a hero. When you’re not; you’re just making it worse.
53:41
So I think based on that, for the time being, even if another issues arises, I think this is the last time I will be seriously addressing any kind of controversy live on stream. Because first of all, like I said I do not want this to become a place where there is always-
a new issue every single week. And I can’t believe it was only the last three weeks we’ve had 3 separate streams where I needed to say something. That’s fucking unacceptable. Even if something else happens, you’ve heard my statement on it.
If something else happens, ignore it. Let the haters go to the dogs. Let them suffer and whine and cry on their own and eventually, they’ll give up. If you respond to it, it will get worse.
54:39
So just leave it. If you leave it, then I will have the luxury of leaving it as well. I will get to focus on what my actual job is, which is streaming. I wasn’t hired to become a PR manager.
I was hired because I am funny as fuck and good at my job. So, I don’t want to keep doing this extra work. I want to focus on what matters. I want to focus on streaming. So yeah, now I’m handing this off to you.
55:27
(Responding to a super chat saying “Whatever you do I will support u love u babe”): Thank you, [SC]. See that’s the real kindred attitude. It’s to support me no matter what.
55:58
Do not engage in drama and it will suffocate and die without a tension. End of story.
Also adding this in because why not:
56:30
"Thank you guys all so much. I feel much better now. But yes, back to the more important issues: Pilk."

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