First study of Paxlovid in vaxxed people shows a significant benefit in preventing hospitalization for those over 65yo, but not for younger.

The study was independent of Pfizer, used real-world data. Done in Israel of course (US seems incapable of this)

reuters.com/business/healt…
Patients >65yo without prior immunity saw an 86% drop in hospitalizations with Paxlovid. This matches/exceeds the 79% in trials. Those who had prior immunity benefited by 60%, still very good.
I always double-✅ "no effect" findings to see if they're truly neg or there's a possible effect that didn't reach stat sig. The latter can happen due to either small effect size or small study size. For unvaxxed 40-64yo, the risk was 21% (CI 3%–153%) based on 343 hospital cases.
That means Paxlovid may help reduce hosp visits in unvaxxed 40-64yo to 21% vs untreated (a 79% benefit), but to cover 95% of stat possibilities, the estimate is anywhere from 3% (97% benefit) to 153% (53% harm). The wide interval is due to the small # hospitalized at these ages.
Pfizer's Phase 3 trial just grouped all ages together and saw a 79% benefit. The small hospitalization #'s for people <65yo got grouped together with the larger #'s for >65yo. As long as the total p value is <0.05 Pfizer can claim benefit across all ages.
nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…
This reveals one of the ways in which stat analysis in clinical trials is arbitrary. You must choose your analysis groups ahead of time as you're (supposedly) only allowed one roll of the statistical dice.
If you have a small # of patients, you could break out >65yo for largest effect to assure you get p<0.05. But if you have a larger # of patients, you could include younger ages in your analysis and broaden the "finding" and the resulting approved indication.
The predicted effect sizes and p values can be modelled ahead of time. So having resources to recruit more patients helps big pharma get broad indications, but a smaller company who can only recruit fewer patients may have to focus trials on only those patients likely to benefit.
OTOH there's 0 detectable benefit of Paxlovid on 40-64yo with prior immunity. That's zero, as in zip, nada. Relative risk of hospitalization for Paxlovid-treated vs untreated 40-64yo with prior immunity is 118% (95% CI 57%-241%) based on 161 hospital cases.
So there's really not even a hint of benefit of Paxlovid for <65yo. And this Israel study is for high-risk patients (patients with comorbidities such as diabetes, hypertension obesity). That means for low-risk patients <65yo there will almost certainly be no benefit.
So if you're <65yo and have some immunity (which is nearly everyone now), the data reveal that there's no discernable benefit to getting Paxlovid, even if you have preexisting conditions.

Don't expect Pfizer to trumpet these results as it removes the majority of the market.
Here's the study's summary table. The hazard ratios we discussed above. The absolute benefit % take into account the different rates of hospitalizations for the different patient groups. You can see the biggest benefit in reducing hospitalization rates come from unvaxxed >65yo
And here's the link to the study
researchsquare.com/article/rs-170…
Finally to those who complained of COI when I criticized molnupiravir because my lab makes protease inhibitors (like Paxlovid): only crickets from your direction?

We're excited to develop protease inhibitors for those who need it. We don't need to artificially inflate the market
This comes back to my concerns on #Paxlovid overuse by those who didn't need it when test-to-treat was announced
The ≥12% #rebound rate among people taking Paxlovid recently (essentially all with prior immunity now) is another reason for <65yo to skip it. Otherwise you risk prolonging infectivity period from 1 to ≥2 weeks.

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Jun 4
Last week Pfizer completed submitting data to FDA on their vax for <5-year-olds, >1mo after Moderna.

The more I chew on the whole <5yo vax issue, the worse it tastes. In fact it seems like moving the goalposts to favor one company in the most egregious way.

A short thread.
Pfizer initially had a 2-dose vaccine regimen. They obtained results in December on immunological outcomes (antibody levels) and they were mixed. Initially they hoped to apply in December but instead extended the trial to a 3rd dose.
Let's assume the correct penalty was applied to the alpha level at the final look after dose 3 to adjust for the fact they had already looked after dose 2.

I'm not sure how this is done though, so would be happy to hear from any clinical trial designers.
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SARSCoV2 infections in San Francisco are now at all-time highs. Yes, higher than before vax, before widespread infections of the unvaccinated.

This spring wave is all BA.2, whereas winter wave was BA.1. BA.4 is low but could create another wave.
Note "COVID cases" don't appear as high simply because we aren't enforcing testing and reporting.

Also note the temporary dip in SF wastewater levels last week has reversed. It wasn't the peak after all.
I speculate, without evidence, that severe or long COVID risk may relate to inoculum size. With BA.1 and old vax not blocking BA.2 that well, reducing inoculum size with masks may be useful.

Certainly doesn't hurt to wear a mask in indoor public places or crowded outdoor places.
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May 27
Excellent article

"Rebound COVID. No final data on whether vaccinated people benefit. @rachgutman investigates what’s really going on with Paxlovid."

theatlantic.com/health/archive…
Pfizer sprinted to get data for EUA impressively quickly. Now that they have that in hand, somehow they find it too difficult to do trials in vaccinated people to get efficacy and rebound rates.
As we were discussing in another thread, Pfizer actually dropped people with any vax dose in the last year from their ongoing "standard risk" EPIC-SR trial. We should pay attention to what David @boulware_dr, who knows a thing or two about clinical trials, has to say about this.
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May 26
An essay wondering why there was no urgency on little kids' vax. The author won't get an answer, because the responsible person likes to stay quiet and invisible.

Here's a hint in 3 letters: HHS

nytimes.com/2022/05/25/opi…
The too-late young kids' vaccine debacle, and the too-late Omicron vaccine debacle, and all the other lack-of-action debacles, reveals at its core the fundamental disrespect politicians of both parties have had for doctors and scientists.
Cabinet secretaries have real responsibilities. Just as we wouldn't have someone with 0 military knowledge lead DoD, HHS shouldn't have gone to someone with 0 medical knowledge who didn't want the job. But that's what happened with Becerra and HHS

cnn.com/2022/02/06/pol…
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May 17
WHO is convincing me to be more enthusiastic about 4th doses.

Today they reviewed studies showing dose 4 gives ≥60yo a 60% more protection from severe disease over dose 3, or an increase in absolute VE from 82% to 92%.

That's a meaningful improvement.

who.int/news/item/17-0…
But to clarify, most studies were comparing 7-60 days after dose 4 to >3mo after dose 3. So it's not clear how much better dose 4 is to fresh dose 3. Different study populations make it hard to compare the 92% fresh 4-dose VE to earlier studies' fresh 3-dose VEs too.
Some context: Hospitalization risk if symptomatic was ~10% for the 3x vaxxed >60yo (in Israel: nejm.org/doi/full/10.10…).

That's similar to the risk for flu cases in >65yo (but in the US: cdc.gov/flu/about/burd…)

The 60% benefit of dose 4 could be seen as similar to a flu shot
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May 16
Sad but true: "Right now the single most effective intervention is to wear a mask. That's unfortunate, because two years in, we should have been past this point.”
fortune.com/2022/05/14/why…
To be precise, the comment is true for someone vaxxed and boosted looking to avoid disease of any severity. If not 3x vaxxed yet, then the best thing to avoid severe disease is to get those 3 shots
The article does a good job exploring the conundrum of getting 4th doses or not. It's disappointing that vaccine choices are so poor that we can no longer unequivocally say a 4th shot would provide more useful protection going forward than the default: a bout of infection
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