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Jun 10 15 tweets 5 min read
Been an interesting week in the campaign for a national strategy to support male victims of sexual abuse, domestic violence & other crimes categorised by the Home Office as 'Violence Against Women and Girls.' Do please hop aboard the thread if you're keeping up. 🧵
First, by way of catch-up, if you're puzzled as to how men and boys can be victims of 'Violence Against Women and Girls' that is understandable, please read the thread(s) here
Preamble 2: A couple of weeks after that publication kicked off a minor media fuss, the Home Office summoned us to discuss "issues around the title" of the document. We explained the issue was not with the title but the actual policy. So of course they then changed the title.
Last week, a reminder about crimes which are classified as 'VAWG' because they "disproportionately affect women & girls." Operation Hydrant updated figures on police investigations into non-recent institutional sexual abuse. They know of 12,656 victims - 8,370 of whom are male.
On Tuesday, my besties @MrMadrigalOBE and @DrLizBates & I, with written submissions from @VictimsComm Dame Vera Baird, addressed the @APPGMenBoys All Party Parliamentary Group. The full session is here
As a brief aside, I cannot tell you how overwhelming it felt, after years of hammering away at these issues, to have Parliamentarians say to our faces for the very first time, 'This is an outrage. How can we help?'
On Weds, the Women & Equalities #SelectCommittee was on Mental Health of Boys & Men. The Minister was asked directly about recovery support for male survivors of sexual abuse. She floundered & was clearly oblivious that the Govt even has a strategy. parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2c…
Yesterday in the Lords, some of the peers who had been at the APPG meeting on Tuesday, took our arguments directly into the Chamber of the Upper House, and PLEASE watch this bit because wow, three peers in a row tearing into the Minister. parliamentlive.tv/event/index/01…
Check the answer at 11:21:17. "Had we done it in the way he suggested [a parallel strategy for male victims] there may have been a lot of complaints from women & domestic abuse organisations that we have not reflected that it is predominantly women that suffer domestic abuse." >
I need to spell this out because it is so important. This is Home Affairs Minister Baroness Williams saying in Parliament that they have declined to give male victims the support, recognition & respect they deserve because the Govt preferred to placate a presumed women's lobby. >
IF THIS WERE TRUE it would be scandalous because she's basically saying they've thrown one group of survivors under the bus to placate another. But (IMO) the actual situation is worse because it's not even true. >
Women's organisations & advocates overwhelmingly SUPPORT removing male victims from the VAWG strategy. Explicit backing for our campaign has now come from:

Dame Vera Baird
Respect UK
Rape Crisis England & Wales
...and countless individual feminist / women's activists.

BUT...
I think the minister has here revealed a profound truth about what is going on here. There is a lazy, ignorant & deeply harmful presumption at many layers of government that properly acknowledging & addressing intimate violence against men and boys is somehow anti-feminist, and >
> that if politicians offer ANYTHING beyond token acknowledgement of the existence of male victims they'll have a hoard of screeching radfem harpies on their backs. It's not true & it's deeply insulting both to male survivors and to our colleagues & friends in the women's sector.
And on that note, I think I shall thank you once again for your patience & interest & say once more that if you want to help, the best thing you can do is alert your MP that this is going on & let them know you care.

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May 26
I've sat on this thread for a few days because everything is still raw but some stuff needs to be said. Some thoughts on the criminology of school/spree shooters and masculinity. Buckle up, it's a 🧵
All this week I've been seeing a lot of remarks & threads like this one (which to be clear, makes many good & correct observations)
> that posit school shootings as products of masculinity, usually characterized as 'toxic masculinity' and mostly drawing on either the work of, or the same line of thinking, as Michael Kimmel in his book Angry White Men.
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Mar 31
Thread #2. I'm conscious of how dry & bureaucratic the topic is, proper policy wonk stuff. So please allow me to put a few faces & stories to the people that the govt calls 'victims of Violence Against Women & Girls' (Obvious TWs/CNs apply)

When the government talks about 'male victims of crimes considered violence against women and girls' they mean over 200 victims of Reynhard Sinaga, who drugged & raped men in my home city over several years. Incredibly brave men like Daniel bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan…
When the government talks about "victims of Violence Against Women and Girls", they are talking about the heroic former footballers we watched on @vicderbyshire, disclosing their years of torment at the hands of abusers like Barry Bennell. @OffsideTrust
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Mar 31
Right Twitter, I'm going to ask your indulgence & patience, because today I expect to be Tweeting & Retweeting a lot about this, which you may already have seen doing the rounds as people marvel at the Alice in Wonderland gobbledegook of the title. Image
So just to get some pertinent questions cleared up before we go any further, a quick history lesson on how we've ended up with 'male victims of crimes considered violence against women and girls.' >
Here is the definition that the Home Office uses of 'Violence Against Women and Girls', taken from their 2021 Tackling VAWG strategy document. (Highlighting mine.) Image
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Mar 30
It's 00:25 & I'm staring at my sixth guess on Wordle and I may never go to bed.
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Have I got you?
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Mar 29
Can't deny this is funny, even though it's O'B smugly proving that he thinks he's cleverer than his audience for the thousandth time, but it does illustrate a key point about the difference between how people vote & how liberal commentators think they should vote. >
People don't choose their political allegiances in accordance with policies, manifestos, positions or even personalities of leaders. People choose their allegiances by values. For decades, working class voters voted for Labour not because they liked the policies or the leaders >
but because their dominant value was working class solidarity. Voting Labour was just what you do if you're working class. The great triumph of (combined) Thatcherite & Blairite neoliberalism was the final destruction of values of working class solidarity. >
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Mar 28
My mentions have been a binfire all day, but in answer to everyone asking why Kent & not all the other places, it's because Kent is funnier, durr. Image
Seinfeld's rule of K-words.
That, plus we totally need to nuke Kent, that's just how it is.
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