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Jun 13 • 21 tweets • 8 min read
(1/n) I sadly cant be at #Eurosatory2022 this week, so a thread, largely for myself, of interesting things people are tweeting for reference/follow up #eurosatory #eurosatory22
(2/n) Rheinmetall finally unveiled the long-rumoured tracked Boxer. Many questions on this one as the week goes on, but light summary is compatibility with standard Boxer modules.
(3/n) They say mobility is "almost similar" to an IFV, which is spectacularly open to interpretation. The hull certainly looks like wheeled boxer, so assume this is a wheels to tracks modification like Stryker +Tr (pictured). Wheels and tracks have radically different core...
(4/n) ...design considerations, so thus far have never been a good approach to flip one hull design to the other. The turret is interesting, will wait for more info on the hull and design before making a clear judgement.
(5/n) KMW's EMBT is back, this time with more than just Lecerlc turret + Leopard 2 hull = new tank. Arguably the first AFV actually showing some genuine 'next gen' concepts in action
(7/n) Nice to see some genuine innovation in the tank domain with a 2-person turret with 2-person hull being a novel approach, the second hull crew is a 'systems operator' handling the BMS, RWS and hosted UAS.
(8/n) 62 tonnes as presented, which is big, but a step down from the 70+ that current top tier tank designs are sitting at or beyond. If nothing else lets applaud the lovely system integration on that turret, very clean given the volume of kit mounted up there.
(9/n) Redback at a European show at last, still waiting for news on L400P3. Seems a very capable bit of kit and a nice disruptor to the market norms
Correction ,KMW - my mistake!
(10/n) Nexter's new Ascalon gun in the flesh, they're claiming quite a lot of punch from a 120 with this design, will be interesting to keep an eye on
(11/n) Early shots of Rheinmetall's KF51 Panther tank. Seems to be a 2A4 with a new turret, but lets reserve judgement until the info packs are out. Interesting it appears to be the only tank (of a surprisingly tanky show so far) with >120 mm gun
(12/n) I'm not sure what I think of Plasan's new Wilder yet, but its certainly interesting, especially with the matching trailer and a heck of a lot of firepower for a small vehicle
(13/n) Compact 4-person vehicle with mid-engine and monocoque body. Keen to see more and work out the obvious usage cases
(14/n) A bit more KF51. Still feels more like a rebrand of the MBT Revolution lineage than an all-new tank, on instinct. Not a problem, just not the all-new beast I expected (so far).
(15/n) Leopard 1 with a Cockerill C3105 is an interesting one to see. Potentially a cheap way to boost up some older tanks for some market segments.
(16/n) UVision Air Hero loitering munitions integrated with Boxer and Lynx. Hero has a 60min endurance, 60km range and a 4.5kg warhead
(17/n) Excalibur Army MORANA 155 mm artillery concept vehicle
(18/n) New renders of Boxer Tracked, which looks radically better in green and better shows its not just a Stryker +Tr esque wheels to tracks conversion. Interesting.
(19/n) Elbit's Sabrah light tank, being bought by the Philippines
(20/n) EODH's ASPIS-NG Modular Protection solutions, including passive and reactive armour products
(21/n) CT40 on a truck, as TD says, a good example of how investing in a capability leads to a common set of solutions and lots of efficiency in R&D/spend

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UK already has a fleet for that, just its seen as purely a RM thing for some reason?
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(1/n) Off the back of @thinkdefence's thoughts on LIS, a thread of a few cautionary ramblings with my old market forecast analyst hat on around the UK getting back into the military vehicles and AFV business. Image
2/ Quick disclaimer, LIS is actually a rather nice document for once, and the aspirations are great. This quick thread is also through the blinkered lens of vehicles and AFVs, not the full land picture LIS addresses. That out the way, on with the waffle: Image
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(1/n) I suspect many don't appreciate just how miniscule the timings are in the world of APS intercepts. Most extreme example are 'distributed' APS like Rheinmetall's ADS, which defeat at very close proximity to the vehicle. A short thread:
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(1/n) A short thread on the latest K9 offering, which is a nice example of what a high end tracked howitzer can look like.

#artillerytwitter #K9 #MFP
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Mar 11
(1/n) The NAOs Ajax report has snuck out this morning, an evolving thread of initial highlights and thoughts

nao.org.uk/report/the-aja…
(2/n) Nice top line facts. Many will point to £3bn spent, 26 vehicles received but its obviously a little more nuanced than that, not least because of decision to run demonstration & manufacture together. Also there would have been a lot more than 26 if the issues hadn't arisen
(3/n) These are the scary ones. Late 2022 before a solution might be found. No idea of IOC. 'More than' £10bn through life cost vs £6bn originally. This isn't something that's going to suddenly get back on track
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Mar 11
(1/n) Really looking forward to Land 400 Phase 3 decision any day now in Australia

A reminder via this lovely Hanwha Redback chart that its for a family of variants and not just an IFV. Hanwha's approach with Redback is 6 core variant designs for the 10 mission variants required
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(3/n) L400P3 is a really significant programme for medium armour. Australia got the timing wrong, arguably, and is leading the world in having to make a judgement call about which of the Redback and Lynx is the AFV of choice rather than letting someone else make that judgement...
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