And then of course this part, which will mean no hospital will EVERY perform an abortion again because they won't want to risk being told the patient wasn't close enough to death....
They reiterate multiple times that threat of suicide does not count as needing an abortion to prevent death. So, this is worse than pre-Roe for those who are curious.
Translation: if there really is a circumstance where the life is in immediate jeopardy, the abortion will be done in a way that will cause harm to the patient (surgery or induced labor) to try to save the fetus at all costs, even if it is not able to survive outside the womb.
Why is this important to them? Because then they can claim it wasn't an abortion anyway. It is why it's "okay" to cut and remove the tube during an ectopic but not give a methotrexate injection.
But on the bright side, they are going to provide statistics on whether the person who had the abortion survives and "for how long..."
Well that's just all around hideous. If states really do pass something like this, the reality is that while they will claim they aren't "prosecuting" pregnant people they are medically isolating them from any hope of ending a pregnancy. And they are ecstatic about it. /end
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I broke my thread somewhere in here but whatever. Because I’m still mulling over what this means. Feel like you would die if you’d have a baby? Give birth! May physically die? Give birth! We’ll keep track of how long you last afterward!
Manage your own abortion and afraid you did it wrong? Go to a hospital and be interrogated! You probably won’t be jailed as long as you give them someone else to prosecute. But don’t you dare call someone to support you. No clinic. No Doula. Nothing. This is so isolating&hateful.
I firmly believe most conservatives even don’t want this. They aren’t taking seriously or aren’t aware of how very far these people are willing to go. Talk to your families. Talk to your neighbors. I promise you, many are disgusted by what the anti-abortion faction is doing
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So if I’m being totally honest, I’ve been sitting in my thoughts for hours now on this @politico article about our clinic, because I have never felt this hopeless about our future before. politico.com/news/magazine/…
To be clear - it’s a great article. But a year in post Dobbs, my optimism is wearing off. And hearing in brutal detail from enemies and allies alike that well, we are probably going to fail, it’s a lot.
Seeing it in stark detail - 3 months wait for an IUD at the student health center, 6 months at the county health department, and we can get you in next day, but that we are the ones being starved off… it’s really hard.
So now that we know the result, I have a LOT to say about politicized and unregulated medical boards, the weaponization of HIPAA and the real effects of witch hunts like this. So please buckle up, this will be long. washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05…
for those who don't remember we had a similar issue w Dr. Torres - the state gave her a license until they realized she was doing abortions. Then they suddenly found "issues" with her application. theguardian.com/world/2023/mar…
Once upon a time, medical boards didn't used to be completely politically controlled entities. But as they become more under the control of governors who appoint them, they become more partisan and agenda driven.
So Alabama's really going to vote on whether a pregnant person should go to jail for murder if they don't produce a live birth. legislature.state.al.us/pdf/Searchable…
But hey! The pregnant person can't be prosecuted over miscarriage due to physical or sexual assault from a partner. Generous.
Eagerly waiting for all the so-called "prolife" groups to talk Yarborough into pulling the bill or encourage his colleagues to vote no but I'm not holding my breath. Because they *say* they don't want to prosecute, but when given the opportunity....
Also of note - this bill allows the AG to prosecute if a DA refuses to. So...Captain "we can get them on chemical endangerment at least" is the deciding authority on who will be prosecuted.
I talked about this a lot yesterday because this is exactly what happened - red state clinics shuttered/ moved so there's no one to help those who self-manage or provide follow up for those who do leave the state but may have an issue when they get home. rewirenewsgroup.com/2022/04/13/if-…
We talked a great deal about what it means to support abortion as a human right - how it's not enough to shore it up in blue states, how shield laws and travel funds can NEVER replace care locally for those who need it.
There are now two places in the combined states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama that would be able to provide an MVA to a person who has bleeding issues post abortion without those patients needing a hospital. TWO.
For those who like to know what is happening down here in Alabama, I finished the monthly numbers for @alabama_west. A thread….
@alabama_west In January we saw 57 individual patients for pregnancy confirmation, contraception, prenatal care, trans health, HIV care, STI testing and miscarriage management. This is our biggest number yet. (We used to see 200 a month pre-Dobbs, but post Dobbs more like 20)
Most of these patients were either uninsured or on Medicaid. In actual cash from patients, we took in a total of less than $1400. Basically, we get not even $25 per patient.
Oh I’m about to have words. I went grocery shopping last night and I’m still seething….
EVERY save money tactic has to do with the exchange of time vs money. And let's be frank, in most places that's the female partner's time. My house is fairly egalitarian, but lately I've been doing most of the cooking because my husband is on a work project with overtime.
He generally does the shopping himself though, although I've been coming with more. In Alabama, most people seem to go shopping multiple times a week and to multiple stores. We don't have time for that between kids and jobs. That's our first "we pay for saving time."