And then of course this part, which will mean no hospital will EVERY perform an abortion again because they won't want to risk being told the patient wasn't close enough to death....
They reiterate multiple times that threat of suicide does not count as needing an abortion to prevent death. So, this is worse than pre-Roe for those who are curious.
Translation: if there really is a circumstance where the life is in immediate jeopardy, the abortion will be done in a way that will cause harm to the patient (surgery or induced labor) to try to save the fetus at all costs, even if it is not able to survive outside the womb.
Why is this important to them? Because then they can claim it wasn't an abortion anyway. It is why it's "okay" to cut and remove the tube during an ectopic but not give a methotrexate injection.
But on the bright side, they are going to provide statistics on whether the person who had the abortion survives and "for how long..."
Well that's just all around hideous. If states really do pass something like this, the reality is that while they will claim they aren't "prosecuting" pregnant people they are medically isolating them from any hope of ending a pregnancy. And they are ecstatic about it. /end
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I broke my thread somewhere in here but whatever. Because I’m still mulling over what this means. Feel like you would die if you’d have a baby? Give birth! May physically die? Give birth! We’ll keep track of how long you last afterward!
Manage your own abortion and afraid you did it wrong? Go to a hospital and be interrogated! You probably won’t be jailed as long as you give them someone else to prosecute. But don’t you dare call someone to support you. No clinic. No Doula. Nothing. This is so isolating&hateful.
I firmly believe most conservatives even don’t want this. They aren’t taking seriously or aren’t aware of how very far these people are willing to go. Talk to your families. Talk to your neighbors. I promise you, many are disgusted by what the anti-abortion faction is doing
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Gonna write a book called “the jails.” In it, kids are put into “education prison” and locked up until they graduate to keep them safe from guns. And when you are ill, you are sent to “sick people jail” and locked in to be safe from guns & keep “public” safe from illnesses.
If you are one of the “regular” people you work from your home. Alone. So you are safe from office shootings and public mass shootings. That’s the “privilege.” It’s your “employment jail."
Of course, if you get pregnant, you are moved to “birth jail” so they can keep the fetus safe from not being harmed by the pregnant person or society at large. Those babies go to “education jail” after they are born.
Live Action is pushing the Dublin Amendment again (the idea that abortion is absolutely never medically necessary) and their “this isn’t abortion” list is terrible.
“You never need abortion you can still have treatment with cancer” usually involves holding off treatment until after the 1st trimester or longer. Obviously ever person should choose their priorities. But ohhhh how these folk love to glorify “Died for their baby” stories…
Just a reminder that the anti-Disney brouhhaha is nothing new and has nothing really to do with their movies or whatever the hell the right is claiming. This has been happening since the 1990’s. It’s just now there is an internet to make it look bigger.
In the late 90’s Disney made evangelicals unhappy by the “un-Christian” act of *gasp* allowing gay employees health insurance. They “gave Disney a year” to change their ways. Spoiler, Disney didn’t. cnn.com/US/9706/18/bap…
This is of course back in the SCARY days when Ellen Degeneres had a sit com on ABC and her character had the AUDACITY to come out as gay.
I’m seeing a lot of misinformation out at the moment about products of conception/fetal remains from clinics. Here are a few things to know, based on historical context and current clinics standards.
MOST IMPORTANT - CLINICS DON'T PUT REMAINS IN DUMPSTERS….
“Remains in dumpsters” is primarily an early anti-abortion talking point from the 80s, mostly contrived from the original clinic rescue folk out of Chicago, who would get tipped off by services that come to get remains so they could grab them 1st (read “Abandoned” to learn more)
Today, clinics place anything that could contain any sort of pathogen or blood in biohazard containers that are picked up by service providers. Some - like ours - are also required to send all POC (products of conception) to a pathology lab. Dumpsters are for trash. Period
Since I’m getting a lot of DMs right now, here is an older short history I wrote on the anti abortion movement, fetal remains from clinics, and how they hold a yearly memorial service nationally in remembrance. inthesetimes.com/article/lets-g…
also here’s a fun blast from the past about the time Operation Rescue threw a fetus at then candidate Bill Clinton. nytimes.com/1992/07/15/new…
okay, I need to go back to clinic work. Because we have a pretty new webpage with new services going live <3
We are about 90 days from at least 15 states potentially losing all access to legal abortion and there is still absolutely no plan being developed to keep open safe spaces for those who need follow up if they manage their own care.
I hear over and over again how we have to invest in the resources to move people to “oasis” states. The clinics potentially opening in these areas. The fundings and staffing to make the trips available and affordable. But what about the rest of this?
Why is there absolutely no talk about big investment in the clinics who are going to be fighting to stay open to provide care to the person who had a failed medication with pills? Or the person who is afraid to confirm a pregnancy w their current doctor and have it in their file?