@GroyperAbsent Pinning. This account will be dedicated purely to the continuation of the Moldbug thread from my first account. Ideally, this will translate to better account longevity so we don't lose the thread again. I'm reposting my intro because the thread wasn't properly @'ing you guys! Image
@GroyperAbsent I'll start by reposting some classics from the first thread, to give people (especially newcomers) a feel for what it's like and to present a chance for them to retweet/like posts that disappeared with the old thread (once again, this is reposted so your @'s get mentioned).
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH I believe this was the first post in the original thread. What an effortlessly brutal summary, especially for 2009.

"Each crime committed by tribe B is a random and inexplicable event. And its purely coincidental that he's so well-informed about the enormous crimes of tribe A." ImageImage
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH In the spirit of recent threads where my mutuals laughed at people who think either 1. The CIA is reactionary OR 2. Bill Gates is a eugenic Nazi; here is Moldbug noting how mysteriously fast right-wing governments seem to die under American hegemony. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "During the Second German War the New Deal became a one-party state. Its enemies were not simply defeated, they were barred from all polite society....The US has had no reactionary elite for quite some time. The postwar American conservative movement is a 50s forgery."

Real. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH Continuing our theme of, "No, Western elites are not secret fascists" lets analyze WWII as well. Our "fashy elites" went out of their way to denigrate the Axis/kick the dog until it bites, making up ridiculous lies about "world conquest" to justify war. Leftist projection. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH I'll put one Austrian economics/Goldbug throwback in here as well. I was posting this constantly in fall 2021 when Carlsbad was still on his crusade against nazbols and "post-liberalism." Moral of the story? Your libertarian boomer uncle was right about Big Gov. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "By electing a mulatto President, Americans have not brought this circus to an end. Rather, they have just fed it another lollipop."

Nostradamus-tier forecasting. This was written almost three years before even the Trayvon shooting, let alone Gamergate. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH I wasn't going to post anything relating to the Cathedral because 1. The term has fallen out of favor.2. It's boring. That being said, I'll be forced to post about it at some point as we go through UR, so why not. I want you guys to have foreknowledge of how he saw it. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "Surely, since a journalist is one thing and a professor another, you would expect conflict between them. You would expect various internal factions of journalists and professors to form. They don't."

That's because journos and profs are both a priestly caste #JimsBlog. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH A bit of exposition on the problem of conservatism. Surprisingly (especially when compared to his Gray Mirror writings) Moldbug actually does praise normiecons sometimes. See the top paragraph of the left image, where he gives them credit for preventing Bolshevism in America. ImageImage
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH Speaking of Tocqueville, I have to repost these Moldbug comments from an old Blowhard's blogpost. I'm probably going to repost all of them, he really is at his best in these threads full of normies.

"The left cannot be appeased. It can only be smashed." SO TRUE Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "The excuse is that it always is too difficult to enforce the law. Its just so hard to crack down on these black gangs! Strangely, in 1950, it wasn't hard at all."

Straight and to the point. Remember, "over-policing" isn't real. It never has been. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "There were millions of decent, honorable, respectable people who voted for the Nazis. In fact, if I had lived in Germany at the time, I might well have been one of them. We do not hear much about the abuses of Weimar, but they were considerable."

"..." Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH On the 1994 South African election. That first paragraph does a good job of ridding one of the notion that there ever was a time (back before the big woke wave of 2014 am i rite!!) where negotiating a "middle ground" with the Left ever made sense. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "You live in an America in which the advantages of black skin are glaring and obvious. Negritude is a kind of title of nobility. It puts you on the express train for every promotion, every appointment, every honor.
And yet, because your world is run by invisible Texas oilmen..." Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH As I said in the last thread however, we post both the good and the bad. This is a textbook example of the kind of bullshit that Carlsbad rightfully has corrected in the sphere. Catholicism really does have a connection to the idea of the social contract, look at Suarez. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH Mostly Filmer's commentary on power separation being a meme. I have more sympathy for this idea, but as we'll see with a TGGP comment I'm going to post next, it is a suspect opinion as well (I'm posting from the UR archive at this point, where the comments are saved). ImageImage
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH And there it is. Absolute monarchies, while having nowhere close to the bureaucracy of modern states (and still existing prior to a true distinction between "public" and "private") were far more bureaucratic than medieval ones (that demon Jean Bodin as Carlsbad has joked). Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH There, the end of the reposts. Our first new post now begins, Patchwork 2 (November 20, 2008). I wonder if Carlsbad would agree that no government where the public/private distinction has manifested can limit itself....(obviously not where Moldbug was coming from though haha). Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "The neocameralist structure of Patchwork realms, which are sovereign joint-stock corporations, creates a different kind of should. This is the profitable should."

Even today, knowing everything I do now, I still like it at first glance. Also first use of #neocameralism Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "Is it possible to design a structure of government which will be stable and predictable?"

"Only with unfathomable amounts of private feuding and low-scale warfare"

"I'm a soft, coastal Jew at heart. Can't we have good governance without the incessant violence?"

"..." ImageImage
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH On who is "layer one" vs "layer zero" in the Imperium stack and also how the electorate at least theoretically should be more powerful than layer two (since layer one picks Congress, which then picks Supreme Court justices indirectly through layer one's will). ImageImage
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH On the Populists. These are the hard-working Middle Americans who genuinely believe democracy works. Unfortunately, this means they are the most naïve voting group. Questioning why Bush couldn't fire that State Department official, who REALLY had the power, is beyond them. ImageImage
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH This category has definitely become more murky today. Arguably most every electorate today engages in "tribal politics" (ie increasingly voting for hereditary interests as he puts it). We are no longer within the end of history phase of the 90s and 2000s.
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @AntiNrx @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH Third paragraph reminds me of Carlsbad's diatribes against the ghost of "neoliberalism" last year. The supposed privatization waves, deregulation campaigns, shrinking of government in the 70s and 80s....none it was real. None. Nada. Zip. They didn't do shit. Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH Well, if you're wondering why Yarvin talked like he did in that latest Gray Mirror piece, the truth of the matter is, he has always talked about the "Brahmins" or "white shitlibs" in this manner.

"Institutionalism is an essentially aristocratic belief system." Image
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH "I would trade every Amerikaner for the Burning Man attendees, because I know that if I have the Burning Man attendees, I can get the Amerikaners back. Forge the spearhead, and the spear will show up."

You can't say he hasn't been consistent, nor can you pretend to be surprised. ImageImage
@GroyperAbsent @CovfefeAnon @SandpiperFax @MoldbugQ @moldbug_ebooks @WindReign @rxntmw @junger_g @CryptonMaximus @Nomos_Forever @cvnnitatvs @BastilleAddict @GrantMegason @LoliConsul @JackVien @jawn_117 @ApricotKaguya @The_WGD @Sardaukar1337 @Filmerian1 @CosinChristian @HoratiusAtGate @cartographer_s @theBasedPrince @mauledbywolves @newport_enjoyer @MilleniumRegime @circleccowboy @FrenziedFish @TObscurantist @BTC_i_Hodl @VICEROYxMONARCH He didn't put feudal Europe as an example in the first paragraph so maybe he isn't entirely talking out of his ass there.

3rd paragraph is sobering and hints at the problem Jim and Spandrell eventually try to describe (the holiness spiral).

4th paragraph contains a #KikeMoment Image

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