@espeyraunza @Oneiorosgrip @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @BLS_gov @pewresearch Your source uses the same dataset but a different year. The time amounts are not significantly different. The data underlying your news source supports my conclusions. Try again! 🤣
@espeyraunza @Oneiorosgrip @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @BLS_gov @pewresearch The first Table 8 of the @BLS_gov’s 2012 American Time Use Survey (bls.gov/news.release/a…) demonstrates that the #GenderedLaborGap was the same problem I articulated in my thread. It is not just something that existed as a freak accident of statistics in 2017 or 2019.
@espeyraunza @Oneiorosgrip @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do that math:

1st Table 8, column 1: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.11 2.28
Caring for household: 1.51 2.54
Work-related activities: 5.33 3.04
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Total: 7.95 7.86
@espeyraunza @Oneiorosgrip @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @BLS_gov @pewresearch Your source, @espeyraunza, uses "data from the 2012 American Time Use Survey" (usnews.com/news/articles/…), which I have outlined above. It supports my position, not yours. As I said, same dataset, different year. The data doesn't seem to change much from year to year.

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Jul 19
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip @BLS_gov @pewresearch This is not an apples to apples comparison.

So-called unpaid work included “routine housework; shopping; care for household members; child care; adult care; care for non-household members; volunteering; travel related to household activities; other unpaid activities.”
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip @BLS_gov @pewresearch Going on a shopping spree to buy things for yourself as retail therapy is not really labor for and yet your source includes it as unpaid work, but the Pew Research Center (@pewresearch) and I excluded it in our analysis of the American Time Use Survey.
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip @BLS_gov @pewresearch Volunteering and caring for those outside the household were also excluded from the Pew Research Center (@pewresearch) and my analysis of the American Time Use Survey as neither activity necessarily benefits the household and so is not labor FOR the household.
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Jul 18
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip False. If you add up both the unpaid and paid labor, on average, men work more total time than women creating a #GenderedLaborGap pursuant to (as an example) the @BLS_gov's 2017 American Time Use Survey (bls.gov/news.release/a…) and @pewresearch's data (pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018…).
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip @BLS_gov @pewresearch American Time Use Survey (with 2017 as an example) shows that women on average are not spending enough more time with their kids, doing chores, or anything else to explain women's lack of time working.

On average, men just work more in America (considering both paid and unpaid).
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip @BLS_gov @pewresearch Let's do the math:

Table 8A, column 1: Men: Women:
Household activities: 1.31 2.34
Caring for household: 1.01 1.85
Work-related activities: 5.46 3.37
==========
Total: 7.78 7.56
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Jul 15
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip For millennia, when men were the sole custodial parents after divorce, women were neither asked nor required to pay child support. Men had to support the children of whom the men had custody.

Why can’t modern women handle the same degree of responsibility as men of old?
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip Regarding when men always got custody in divorce, consider "Lagging Behind the Times: Parenthood, Custody, and Gender Bias in the Family Court" by Cynthia A. McNeely published in 1998 in Volume 25 of the _Florida State University Law Review_ page 891 (ir.law.fsu.edu/cgi/viewconten…).
@espeyraunza @magpie_2021 @CaeValentine @ALeaftOnTheWind @Oneiorosgrip "[T]he father [was designated] as the natural protector of children because he had the ability to provide for their financial support. Women were seen as incapable of handling legal or financial matters…." 25 Fla. St. U. L. Rev. 891, 897 (1998).
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Jul 1
@WrthlssWnderby @TheEcho13 Evidence: male circumcision has not been banned under the same circumstances that female circumcision has already been banned (as both were historically medical procedures in the United States of America 🇺🇸); registration for selective service (and, thus, the draft) still exists.
@WrthlssWnderby @TheEcho13 Male and female circumcision were both medical treatments.

“Female circumcision has been practiced in the United States since at least the nineteenth century… through the early-twentieth century … for the treatment of masturbation … and nymphomania” (muse.jhu.edu/article/44151).
@WrthlssWnderby @TheEcho13 “[S]ince the 1950s that discouraging masturbation was a major reason …[for] widespread circumcision of both boys and girls in the nineteenth century, a campaign which was successful in the former case, unsuccessful in the latter” (cirp.org/library/histor…).
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May 21
@Hils50347032 No fewer hours worked and that includes unpaid domestic work, too.

It appears that you are unfamiliar with the #GenderedLaborGap and need to be educated. Allow me to introduce you to some of the data.
@Hils50347032 If you add up both the unpaid labor and paid labor, on average, men work more total time than women creating a #GenderedLaborGap pursuant to (as an example) the @BLS_gov's 2017 American Time Use Survey (bls.gov/news.release/a…) and @pewresearch's data (pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018…).
@Hils50347032 @BLS_gov @pewresearch According to the @BLS_gov, "[o]n the days they worked, employed men worked 49 minutes more than employed women. … However, even among full-time workers (those usually working 35 hours or more per week), men worked more per day than women—8.4 hours, compared with 7.9 hours."
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Apr 2
@shanoawarrior @WrthlssWnderby @incompleteocean @butterpants_mc @Groucholiz @Oneiorosgrip @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @melJsaysso @FHousebunny @ALReproRightsAd @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char @NationalNOW This history paper you cite addresses a period decades after the introduction of both child support and women beginning to be awarded custody so it is irrelevant to the discussion of the original purpose of child support. As your paper demonstrates, women were irresponsible.
@shanoawarrior @WrthlssWnderby @incompleteocean @butterpants_mc @Groucholiz @Oneiorosgrip @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @melJsaysso @FHousebunny @ALReproRightsAd @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char @NationalNOW There was no child support prior to the 1800's. Child support didn't exist in America 🇺🇸 prior to 1839. The idea that women were responsible enough to independently parent started in 1839 (but women needed a man's financial help as women were seen as so irresponsible otherwise).
@shanoawarrior @WrthlssWnderby @incompleteocean @butterpants_mc @Groucholiz @Oneiorosgrip @JazhuStreaming @SexDrugnRnR @melJsaysso @FHousebunny @ALReproRightsAd @LustfulLiberal @nerdybirdyCH @numbersdelight @JustLaurenB @Judith_Char @NationalNOW “By 1983, 7.2 million families with children were headed by women. By 1984 one out of five children and over half of black children lived in a home in which no father was present” (irp.wisc.edu/publications/f…, p. 11). If women were as responsible as men, this should have been fine.
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