When I met Alex @Mashinsky for the first time back in 2018, he explained to me a simple business model of holding user’s coins, making collateralized loans, and paying that yield back to depositors
It was straightforward, simple. It made sense
How the hell did we get here...?
For a while, it worked brilliantly. To the first users of the app, it felt like a new paradigm. "Earn Bitcoin on your Bitcoin"? It was a killer app. You just HAD to tell people about it
4 years later it's hard to believe I am reading the bankruptcy filing of this same company
The Ch 11 filing shed a lot of light on how this simple, straightforward business model went very wrong…
Mashinsky and Celsius got away from the business of just making good (collateralized) loans, earning honest yield, and paying what they could in-kind (or in CEL)
Over time, the reality began drifting farther and farther away from that simple business plan Alex laid out to me and so many others those days back in 2018
And here we are with (at least) a 30%+ hole in the balance sheet. In OUR money. What an epic fuck-up 🤦♂️
How did we get to this point? What caused the persistent drift?
I think that Defi had a lot to do with it
The filing highlights that 2020 (also the emergence of Defi) was the start of a number of problems in risk management - this is consistent with the Keyfi case as well
I think it’s likely the Celsius executives (all tech enthusiasts) saw the excitement of Defi and the accompanying high-yields, and thought they could play that same game with user funds
Alex is incredibly competitive, I think he simply saw Defi yields and got FOMO
And so Celsius' risk management starts to get increasingly reckless... meanwhile... on the AMAs @Mashinsky was poo-pooing Defi at every opportunity; telling users it wasn't safe - Celsius was better
Defi acts in it’s own interests, whereas Celsius acts in YOUR best interests...
I was one of the community members who was pushing Celsius to do more in Defi... but there is a way to play Defi "Delta Neutral" (ie w/o taking directional risk), many funds do it
I thought this was obvious, I never even conceived Celsius would take the kinds of risks it did.
We also had no idea the company was using DEPOSITOR assets to fund it's foray into Bitcoin mining/M&A... However you feel about the bullishness of BTC mining, this seems like an egregious overreach and an incredibly risky liability for the company and it's customers - all of us
I keep thinking about that slogan; “acting in your best interest” @Mashinsky probably repeated it multiple times a week btwn the AMAs, Twitter Spaces, etc.
I know it’s what drew me to the company personally, I believed it. All those proclamations hit really differently now
It’s just amazing to me how management fcked up such a good thing, such a simple thing. At some point, they stopped taking full collateral for their loans, they started dealing with riskier counterparties, they started getting more reckless in Defi...
and they started acting more and more like an unaccountable hedge fund, treating depositors like LPs and funding adventures into mining and M&A (see GK8)
They got away from what was supposed to be their core value - the industry's core value - transparency
In an attempt to end on a good note... it does seem like the company (via Ch11) is looking to find a recovery plan that hopefully WILL be in depositors' best interest. Many in the community are also doing great work- particularly @SimonDixonTwitt whose recovery plan I've endorsed
It seems obvious to me the current upper management cannot be allowed to continue, in fact I'll be surprised if they can ever work in this industry again (at least in any retail-facing biz). "Newco" feels like the only option. Forward is the only option 🙏
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It’s true the stETH situation presents a problem – Celsius has liabilities to users for deposited ETH, those users need to be able to withdraw that ETH should they want to (though many keep it there to enjoy the attractive weekly yield)
A few weeks ago, I was liquidated for >150K $CEL tokens. These were tokens I’d been holding since 2018 and had 0 intention of selling...
I wanted to do a post-mortem🧵on what happened and my own lessons learned. I hope it helps others learn from my mistakes, and reflections👇
context: through late 2018/early 2019 I accumulated a sizable (for me at the time) bag of around 300K $CEL, I don’t know exactly what my cost basis on this position was as it was all purchased on IDEX using ETH... but it was prob around $0.05. I earmarked it as a HODL position
When the token started to moon bigly in mid/late 2020, I started to DCA out a chunk of my position. Why? Simply to take profits and rebalance my then heavily-skewed portfolio
I mean if you don't take profits at 100x+ what are you even doing right?
Let's start with: what are the goals of @CelsiusXDeFi?
To drive adoption for Celsius wrapped tokens
Adoption looks like:
-Liquidity on non-native chains
-Integration with defi products on the target chain
Accomplish this --> Celsius users have more in-app options to use Defi
So how to incent this? What if we used portion of our revenue (for instance instead of burn) to drive additional yield to certain in-app Defi options...
Then - and here's the big point - we allow protocols/users to vote on these incentives with $CEL token
#Celsians Let's take a minute to speculate on how CelsiusX could work and why it might be a massive gamechanger for @celsiusnetwork
Hold my hand, anon, and let's peer down the rabbit hole together.... 🕳️
🧵
1/ Per the teaser
we know that CelsiusX will be a wrapped token platform, allowing users to withdraw native tokens in the app to... any chain they want?
So we could be the first to get wrapped tokens, like ADA or DOT, on an ETH L2 like Polygon? Yes!
2/
But what's the point? What to do with these tokens when we have them outside their native chain?
You know by now anon, one word: YIELD
Whole market has been ripping... Why is $CEL stagnant/down?
I mean, we just raised a whopper $400m, have tons of new launches coming up, and we’re burning all them tokens right? So what gives?
🧵
1/ I said about a year ago that the biggest risk I saw to $CEL was competition, not from banks obv, they’re already toast… from Defi
Look what happened, this year (and esp recent months) we’ve seen Defi evolve in ways we never even imagined
2/ The stuff you can do is crazy. The yields are crazy.
For the first time since 2018, I moved my stablecoins out of Celsius entirely, the yields in Defi are just better. And it’s not just stables…
As the community has grown and I hit this milestone of over $12k in earned interest passive income (all 100% from the app), I thought it might be interesting for some if I shared my story.
Thread 👇. . .
Firstly I don't think there is anything extra special about me. I got into crypto in 2017, made a shitload, got rekt, and started over.
I dedicated myself to blockchain adoption. At a conference in 2018, I ran into Mashinsky and saw (likely one of the earliest) presentations...
on MOIP and crypto passive income. @AlexMashinsky was patient enough to answer lots of my questions afterward (a quality which he has clearly kept, perhaps always had), and I hit the download button.