A question: Are ancestral guilt and collective guilt fundamentally liberal and tolerant subjects? Can people (“we”) be guilty for sins (“torture”) committed centuries ago (“past”) by people who look like us?
Trying to understand the scholar's reasoning (I did read the book twice):

1. All white people have anti-blackness;
2. That anti-blacknesss comes from our feelings of deep guilt.
3. That guilt is based on our complicity in things other people (either our ancestors or . . .
people who looked like us) did that we now consider morally wrong;
4. That knowledge (in our complicity int those actions) is unbearable for us;
5. To deflect that unbearable knowledge we develop anti-blackness (a sort of psychological defense mechanism).

Do I have that right?
6. The assumption is that everybody has this anti-blackness,
7. And those who say they don’t are merely in denial;
8. And this paragraph explains the roots of that anti-blackness (which we may not be aware of). . .
9. And those roots are based on our deep guilt (whether we admit it or not) of things (here torture) that other people did in the past.

So far so good?
10. To accept the scholar's thesis, we must believe in the validity of collective guilt & ancestral guilt.
11. But what if we don't believe in their validity?
12. What if we believe that collective guilt & ancestral guilt are fundamentally illiberal, intolerant concepts?
13. I’m trying to make sense of all this. I know the scholar doesn’t debate or discuss or even answer difficult questions, so I’m sort of stuck trying to figure it out on my own.
14. Any help much appreciated.

#WhiteFragilty #CollectiveGuilt #SinsOfTheFather

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Jul 24
It’s an interesting concept: a collective racial mind. “The white mind.”

Let’s explore the scholar’s idea . . . . Image
How does one go about defining a collective racial mind? If there is a “white mind”, then is there a “black mind”? Or a “yellow mind”?

The scholar doesn’t say.
Let’s assume DiAngelo has restricted “the white mind” to the United States. That’s 240 million people. And let’s assume they can indeed be generalized as “the white mind”.

The her scholarly academic article, the scholar then makes a damning statement about these 240M people.
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Jul 23
The scholar has developed a clever approach: If you accept his premise (racist or antiracist), and since he gets to define the terms of antiracist, then you must agree with everything he says, otherwise, you’re a racist.
An example of this approach.

1. You either love Christ or you don’t love Christ. (premise)

2. If you love Christ, you must give me 50% of your money. (my terms)

3. You don’t want to give me 50% of your money? (violation of my terms)

4. Then you don’t love Christ.(application)
What if you:

1. Agree to Kendi’s premise (racist or antiracist)
2. Don’t agree with Kendi’s terms. (X, Y, Z – anticapitalism, discrimination, every policy . . .)

Can you still ben an Antiracist?
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Jul 21
Collective guilt. It’s an interesting concept. The West largely got away from it in the 1960s. “We will judge you by your actions and your actions alone, not by the actions of your group.”

But now it’s back. So is ancestral guilt.

There’s a new religion in town.
Some sincere questions:

1. Is collective guilt a fundamentally liberal & tolerant concept?

2. Is ancestral guilt a fundamentally liberal & tolerant concept?

3. If so, how would we apply it? Can we say, "In 1937, your grandfather raped an old lady. You bear guilt for that" ?
That would be ancestral.

Group guilt would be:

“You are Black. Black people commit a disproportionate number of murders. You are guilty for the crimes of your group.”

Or, the intersectionality of the two: Group + Ancestral:
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Jul 20
This dynamic has played out in millions of conversations. It can be maddening. I sincerely wonder why The Woke do this. . . . . Image
Why not just say: “We have a common goal, let’s discuss how to make that goal happen”? . . .
In trying to answer that question, the cynical side of me comes out. And I don’t like it. It sounds almost like a conspiracy theory. And it’s assuming motives, which I don’t like when the Woke do it. (Including the “Race Scholars”.)
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Jul 20
It’s an interesting and bold idea. @DrIbram

The scholar doesn’t debate in public, doesn’t answer difficult questions in public, declines invitations to discuss, and dismisses criticism as “racism” or “not understanding his work”. But we can try to explore on our own. . . . .
1. To my knowledge, never in American history have “ideas” been a punishable offense. Some speech, but not much. And certainly not “ideas”. I wonder how that would play out.

2. I wonder if the ACLU would step forward to protect a person’s right to their own ideas. . . .
3. A committee of “formally trained experts” would decide what constitutes “racist ideas”. What criteria would the committee use to decide which ideas are racist and which ideas are not racist?
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Jul 19
Why do I do these memes?

I’ve always been interested in & reasonably well-educated about America’s long, ugly history of racism & discrimination. Four years ago, in an effort to do the right thing & learn more, I started reading the modern “Race Scholarship” (Robin DiAngelo,……
…Ibram X. Kendi, etc.).

I was appalled.

It was unscholarly, intolerant, illiberal, unscientific and generally just quackery. And often racist – towards both blacks and whites, albeit in different ways. That disturbed me. Racism is a serious subject that deserves serious……
……scholarship. It wasn’t receiving it. At least not from the popular authors.

I continued to read more. And was even more appalled. . . .
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