I think this paper by the Nielsen group on the use of CT scans to neuroprognosticate after cardiac arrest may be a game-changer.

But it will take a few tweets to explain why... ๐Ÿงต

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35931271/
prognostication after cardiac arrest involves a structured series of tests performed over time.

this may vary a bit between patients and institutions.

most often, decisions center around the trifecta:
๐Ÿ”บserial clinical examination
๐Ÿ”บcontinuous EEG
๐Ÿ”บMRI
MRI is the weak link:

๐Ÿ–‡๏ธ least robust evidence
๐Ÿ–‡๏ธ interpretation is subjective
๐Ÿ–‡๏ธ logistically challenging (eg pacemaker)

MRI can help if there is *no* anoxia, or if there is an unexpected *alternative* dx.

MRI isn't great at sorting out bad anoxia from moderate anoxia.
CT has advantages over MRI:
๐Ÿ’ช measurement of Houndsfield units allows it to be objective
๐Ÿ’ช expanding evidentiary base
๐Ÿ’ช high specificity for poor outcome
๐Ÿ’ช can be applied to all pts

the problem with CT has been that it's done immediately post-arrest, before edema develops
the immediate post-arrest CT has poor sensitivity.

but *delaying* the CT >24 hours improves sensitivity, as found in this study from 2018:
the new study by Nielsen's group extends these findings, by showing that delayed CT scan >24 hr
๐Ÿˆ โฌ†๏ธ sensitivity for severe anoxic injury (~70%)
๐Ÿˆ retains high specificity for prognosticating a poor outcome

so CT seems to perform very well when evaluated at the right timepoint
overall, CT scan may be poised to *replace* MRI for post-arrest neuroprognostication in many patients.

of course, each patient must be approached individually

if data isn't lining up (e.g., inconsistencies between exam / EEG / imaging) - wait & get more data!
what do folks think about CT-vs-MRI?

the evidence base for CT isn't gigantic, but I think it's better than the data for MRI.

MRI requires subjective interpretation which introduces a source of bias ๐Ÿ˜ค

more on quantitative CT for prognostication IBNCC: emcrit.org/ibcc/np/#CT_scโ€ฆ

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