OK, #LitigationDisasterTourists, let's review the DOJ's Mar-a-Lago filing. A terrific brief - well written and persuasive - it does exactly what you want to do when you're defending a motion: offer the judge multiple independent reasons to say "no"
That said, I don't love the start of this brief. As the old commercial said, you never get a second chance to make a first impression, and the intro to your brief is where you do that. I always want to start with something high-impact that catches attention/sets a tone or theme
This is not that.
It's basically a procedural summary, and while that's valuable, I don't know why they're leading with it. The court already knows all this (it was days ago in a high profile case) and it adds almost nothing
Almost, b/c that "two weeks later" does echo a point the DOJ later hits
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This is a fair question. Off the top of my head:
A full two weeks after the government executed a duly-issued warrant to seize wrongfully retained governmental records - including Top Secret and even more highly restricted national security information...
... that former President Trump ("Trump") had wrongfully retained in defiance of a subpoena, and in fact had his agent falsely certify he no longer had possession of - Trump brings this motion seeking appointment of a Special Master to oversee the government's review of the ...
... seized materials. As shown below, that request should be denied for multiple reasons [insert road map to brief"
[Again, that's how I'd have started out, or something along those lines. Doesn't make it the "right" way, but it's mine]
Back to the actual brief - this is a good conclusion to the intro: "Look, judge, this guy is trying to throw mud around the courtroom like a demented monkey, but you can just focus on what's relevant. And he's a stone loser on that"
Also helps set the tone: They're going to be running around with their hair on fire. We're the ones who are just going to give you the straight, basic information and legal argument you need to make your decision
Next we have the summary of argument, which provides the roadmap to the brief:
No standing to ask for the return of documents Trump has no right to possess; the court doesn't have jurisdiction anyway; Trump's case is a stone loser; granting the motion would harm the government
Oh, and also, when we said that Trump standing around for two weeks with his hands in his pockets (on his phone, frantically "Truthing") dooms his case, it's not just because of delay.
We've already reviewed everything he wants to stop us from reviewing
I don't love how they structured this - I'd have put jurisdiction before standing ("can the court hear this at all" should come before "does this plaintiff have a right to ask for this relief") and they're jumping from merits to equities back to merits - but considering how fast
they had to get all of this done, that's not a major issue at all.
This is the kindest possible way to say "oooh, Donny, you done it now"
Seriously, just about everything Trump has done since this saga began was an unforced error. From refusing to return the records, to falsely certifying and forcing the warrant, to publicizing it, he's continually chosen the course of action guaranteed to make things worse for him
There were multiple inflection points where if he had just backed off, this probably goes away quietly. Including, obviously, NARA's initial request for documents, but also through early this year. Instead, he dug in his heels, and now we have ... this <waves at the rubble>
Filing this suit was another one of those mistakes; highly unlikely to get him the results he wants, and granting the DOJ both permission and opportunity to publicly correct his lies about the background while maintaining its policy of "only speaking through its filings"
One last point - the "it would have gone away quietly" isn't "you made us work now we'll make you pay". If he'd returned the docs right away, the government wouldn't have had retention or obstruction claims to make, and it would have had a hell of a time proving his state of mind
And if he'd just kept this whole thing quiet, the government would have had to assess the potential harms to publicizing the risks to national security against the need to enforce the law - all against a backdrop where if they just let it go, nobody would have known.
Now, the national security risks are already public and "just letting it go" would be an announcement that Trump is above the law. Through his own actions, he's basically systematically destroyed any reason a prudent Executive might have decided not to charge.
Next we have the background fact sections, and I'll just pull out some new or important info.
First, Trump spent a year haggling with the Archives about returning presidential records, and ultimately turns over 15 boxes that include some classified information.
Two important points here. First, during the initial year that the administration and TFG spent talking about whether he'd give back the documents, there was no reason for anyone to suspect this was anything other than a relatively minor dispute over anodyne Presidential Records
Schedules, notes, etc. Historically important, but not dangerous for Trump to have in Mar-a-Lago. It wasn't until the documents got turned back over in January 2022 - and reviewed after that - that anyone had ANY reason to think what Trump took contained classified info
And that, of course, is because it would be beyond insane for anyone to take highly classified documents to an active country club/resort where completely uncleared third parties - including foreign nationals - routinely stayed
And yes, yes, it's Trump. They should have known "beyond insane" wasn't a limitation on him.
But that's the trouble with dealing with someone so profoundly untethered to any normal bounds of behavior; the universe of what *they* can think to do is too wide to accurately predict
Second, this "well we declassified everything!" idea? Never came up back then. (This is DOJ saying "they're lying. They're obviously lying")
So NARA gets the boxes, reviews the boxes, and in early February goes "holy shit, there's classified info in here, and it CLEARLY wasn't stored correctly". So it tells DOJ.
At this point, nobody thinks there's anything else at Mar-a-Lago; it's "until mid-January 2022"
Anyway, the FBI then seeks access to the materials - I don't know enough about the PRA steps to explain why it took until April 12 for that request to be final - and the Archives communicate that request to Trump to see if he objects (under the PRA he can, and can be overruled)
Trump's response is to delay - he wants an extension of time before the docs get turned over, and he gets that extension, to 4/29. But he still does nothing, and when DOJ tells him "hey, we need those docs", he asks for another extension - and also says ...
"and if you're not going to grant me that extension, let's just say all of it is covered by Executive privilege"
There are, shall we say, a few problems with this
For one thing, executive privilege belongs to the executive. It can't be asserted against the executive - especially to stop it from performing core executive branch functions like "protecting national security" and "enforcing the laws"
And 2, it needs to be asserted doc by doc
So NARA (after Biden delegates the decision to them) says "hahaha no"
And tells Trump it's turning the docs over to the FBI in 2 days.
And Trump. Does. Nothing.
In other words, the Archives gave Trump time to run to court to challenge its decision. He chose not to. That's a waiver. (Not that it matters; he can't assert executive privilege against the executive branch)
What happens next? The FBI reviews the docs and finds 184 with classification markings. And then the unthinkable happens: they get evidence that there were STILL classified docs at Mar-a-Lago.
How did they get that evidence? We don't know, because they can't reveal it without compromising the investigation.
Now I bet MAGA-land will key in on this and claim the FBI just made it up, there was no evidence, they just wanted to persecute Trump.
Cool story bro. How do we know they didn't? Because there's no question that the evidence they developed was ACCURATE. There were more docs.
So either the FBI is clairvoyant, or yeah, someone gave them the goods on what Trump was holding back.
Anywho, DOJ gets a subpoena and says "no, we're fucking serious this time, give us ALL the documents with classification markings"
And eventually, Trump's counsel goes "fine, here they are, come get them"
Important to note here: The subpoena didn't say "all classified documents"
It said "all documents with classification markings"
So if Trump held back docs with those markings because they were "declassified" he violated the subpoena. No wiggle room here.
Apologies for that cursed gif. Sometimes you just have to do it.
Some important stuff in the pickup description.
First, AGAIN, nobody suggests any of this was "declassified" - instead, they treat it as classified, handing it over in a secured package
Second ... whoooo boy is there a lot going on here
First, focus on the certification. The "custodian of records" is REPORTING that a diligent search was made - meaning that they were told about it and didn't participate - and confirming that no notes or copies of anything was kept.
What does all of this point to?
Again, they're very very clearly treating the records as still classified. There's no other reason to have done a search without involving the custodian, and DEFINITELY no other reason to say "we've kept no copies or notes".
This leaves only 2 options, both awful for Trump
Either:
1) They treated the documents as classified because they believed they WERE classified, because the "magic declassification" story is a recently invented lie; or
2) They treated the documents as classified DESPITE thinking they were unclassified (by "magic declassification") in order to fool the government into thinking Trump had not declassified them
The certification also EXPRESSLY swore that there were NO other documents with classification markings on them at Mar-a-Lago (we know that's false), and they didn't allow the FBI to check whether it was true by looking in the remaining boxes.
This ... was not a wise move. "We promise we found everything, but no you cannot check" is not a good way to allay suspicion here.
I'm no criminal lawyer, so maybe I'm missing something, but I'd have allowed the FBI to review for classified info subject to an agreement that
they could not make any notes on anything not marked classified, could not read anything not marked classified, and could not use any knowledge gained in that review for any purpose.
You get to double check our search, that's it.
Instead, they basically told the FBI "yeah, we SAY there's nothing else, but we're not so sure"
And what did they turn over? 38 additional documents. When you realize the FBI says they found 700+ more when they executed the warrant, that should tell you something about the "diligent search" Trump claimed he did to find the 38
And now we get to the juicy stuff.
DOJ keeps digging (guaranteed by the "no you can't check the boxes") and it finds ... a lot.
Like ... a lot a lot.
Turns out Trump didn't search everywhere, actively removed documents from the room before letting his counsel search for classified docs, and didn't return documents to the only room he was allowed to search.
And at that point, DOJ is
"You're wondering why we had to get a warrant? That's why we had to get a warrant. 'You could have just asked, we cooperated?' No, assholes. We DID ask. You DIDN'T cooperate. You twice lied & told us you returned everything, & you tried to hide docs. OF COURSE we got a warrant."
Next, the government obliterates the "you took stuff you weren't allowed to take" claim
And holy hell, he had classified documents just lying around in his desk drawers?
In MULTIPLE desks, no less - which probably means that some classified info was in the desk of some unidentified third party (they're not all his desk)
Unless whoever that person is has a security clearance, Trump is in some deep deep shit; that's dissemination of national defense information to an uncleared person.
Anyway, they're done with review and identified over 100 unique documents, some with the highest classification designations possible (where did I get 700 from?).
Hell, the folks doing the review needed additional clearances just to read some of these docs
Last, the privilege review team has completed its work, too - and is just waiting on this judge to tell them they can follow the warrant protocols.
That's the fact section. Gotta take a break now, will come back to review the legal argument
OK, let's talk about the argument section, since Trump is about to file his reply brief.
First problem: If Trump had no right to HAVE the documents in the first place, he has no right to ask for them back. And he had no right to have Presidential Records
It's a good argument, but there's a problem with it - they've conceded that at least some of the documents they took (like the passports, and the framed TIME cover in the photo, etc) weren't Presidential records, and Trump does have a possessory interest in those docs
So while it's absolutely correct for the documents the government - and Trump - most care about (the classified materials he's going to get indicted for) it's not the case-winner they think it is.
He's got standing to make *a* 41(g) motion, even if of limited scope
They try to dance around that by focusing on the Presidential records. But the Court is likely going to reject the standing argument since there's no real dispute that he could make at least some 41(g) motion
Next they get to the merits, and say "look, even as to personal items, he can't get those back. There's evidentiary value to them". Plus, you only get things back if there's a 4th Am. violation, and taking docs stored together isn't one.
Also, the law was changed to allow the government to keep anything that it took in good faith, and also also, you've got to show extreme disregard for the 4th Amendment and that you absolutely MUST have the property RIGHT THE HELL NOW, none of which Trump did.
BTW, what do they mean by "evidentiary value"?
Take the passports. If you have your passports stored in a drawer with classified docs, it's going to be very hard to argue "that drawer isn't mine"; that the personal effects were stored there helps connect you to the documents
Next they argue that Trump has no basis to stop them from reviewing the seized materials
They argue that there's no injury to Trump from review of Presidential records, because they're not his, and cite a very important SCOTUS case on this (Nixon v. General Services Administration). But ... I don't love this for them.
At least not for that argument, anyway. The case calls it a "very limited intrusion" into the former President's confidentiality interests, which means it recognizes that there is SOME harm to the former President, even if the records aren't his and even if it's not a lot of harm
Of course, "some minor harm" isn't enough to get a preliminary injunction - you need major, irreparable harm - but they don't make that point. Instead, they move onto another, also valid point: They've done their review, so the harm has already happened
Last, they point to Trump's insane delay in seeking injunctive relief.
Look, if you're going to ask for an injunction then, absent some compelling reason not to, you need to do it QUICKLY. Trump waited until the review was done - a sure sign there's no real massive harm
The reference to the Michael Cohen case is a terrific example of Trump in particular moving quickly to seek a special master. And they really twist the knife on why that delay is meaningful
Next they point out that the harm to the government from preventing it from figuring out what classified information was exposed and how to rectify it would be enormous.
I don't know how well this lands after they say "we've already reviewed" - if so, what's the harm?
The fact that they are this far into the argument and haven't mentioned that Trump is trying to assert executive privilege against the executive branch and to impede core executive branch functions, btw, is absolutely nuts
We're on to "a special master is unnecessary and inappropriate" and while this is fun for civ-pro geeks, I'll sum up the attorney client privilege argument: you don't get a SM when it's just one non-lawyer's files that are seized. There's no need for it
The astute among you will note that section starts with C.
I skipped A & B because that's where they FINALLY make the "there's no executive privilege claim here" argument, and I can't believe they shoved it into this section.
Look, my quick first reaction to this brief was it's persuasive and good ... and it mostly is. But organizationally, I hate it. There should have been a merits section focusing on the various claims (privilege, standing, etc.) and then the irreparable harm section, etc.
Instead, we've got the merits sort of haphazardly strewn into various places in the brief, and that just doesn't help. At all.
OK, that said, back to the merits of the Executive Privilege argument, and on this one, they fucking nuke him.
Look, there's a SCOTUS case directly on point and it doesn't go Trump's way. And it's insane to think the law EVER could go Trump's way on this issue.
Executive privilege BELONGS TO the executive branch. It exists FOR THE BENEFIT OF the executive branch. So you can't invoke it AGAINST the executive branch.
Also, he can't invoke executive privilege under the PRA (which has a process for the former president to raise such concerns about dissemination outside the executive branch) because he didn't turn over the records under the PRA, and also the PRA doesn't expand the privilege
And then they bounce the rubble: Even if there were a privilege that could be asserted against the Executive branch itself, it would obviously have to yield here to the Executive's need for the documents
And oh, by the way, you definitely shouldn't be appointing a Special Master to review classified material
Then there's another section where they basically repeat the same arguments. That takes us to the attorney-client section, and the end of the legal arguments
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The SCOTUS affirmative action decision was legally wrong - poorly reasoned and legally silly. But in the long run, and if it spurs schools to use socioeconomic status and opportunity as the finger on the scales, it will be a net positive
Race is a blunt instrument, and I think we *all* agree that, for example, Willow Smith doesn't need or warrant any sort of bump on her college application. But Willow Smith is a WILD outlier and "but what about [insert rare exception]" isn't a useful policy framework
So yeah, it was perfectly reasonable for universities to use that blunt instrument.
As many of these university reaction statements are making clear, the burden will now be to find finer instruments that allow for the same intended benefit of taking into account the very real
This thread from Yesh is a good example of a philosophical mistake I like to call "solutionism" - the belief that if a problem is bad enough then there must be a solution out there to resolve it, because "yeah, it sucks, it can't be solved for" is too unthinkable to bear
You see it a lot in the context of Israel/Palestine, with people convinced that the right mixture of fairy dust & button pushing can lead to a peaceful resolution that addresses all of the important and competing imperatives, it's just that nobody has found the right mixture yet
And we're seeing it with "a large portion of the population is willing to believe any prosecution of crimes by Trump is political"
Yes, that sucks. Yes, that's a potentially society-destroying problem.
@yesh222 You don't worry about that, because it's not a solveable problem. You keep doing the right thing and hope that convictions and mounting evidence prevents more people from joining the conspiracy theorists, but that's all you can do
@yesh222 I said this 4 years ago, and it's proven true in every particular.
Literally nothing she did on the video is consistent with her new story. When her colleague came over and the kids said "that's his bike, he already paid for it" she didn't deny it, or look surprised by the claim.
Like ... how do you determine truth in a they-said-she-said situation? Watch human behavior. Throughout the video, the kids' tone is exactly what you'd expect for someone who believes their own story. Hers very much is not
And when her colleague comes and suggests that the kids get another bike, and they say "no, he paid for that bike, he unlocked it, it's his" there's exactly no reaction of "no, *I* paid for it" or "what the hell", which is what you'd expect if they were lying
Hey, Twitter, and especially my #LitigationDisasterTourists, gather round. B/cwhile DM is focusing in on the court finding that selling videogame cheats is criminal copyright infringement and RICO, I'd like to tell you about something different. The CFAA, and @KathrynTewson
And don't get me wrong - that RICO stuff is big news that should be sending shockwaves through the cheat software industry. Cheatmakers often use resellers. Being found liable on a RICO violation means that every reseller could potentially be liable for 100% of the damage caused
by the cheat software.
And by 100%, of course, I mean 300%, since RICO comes with treble damages. Plus attorneys' fees. So that's a big deal.
As is the finding that it's criminal copyright infringement. Those are both new precedents in the area, and that's huge.
I'm not inclined to forgive antisemitism, but this is more a learning opportunity than a defenestration opportunity. There are people who still legitimately don't understand that "Jew down" or "gyp" are slurs; it's just a phrase they've grown up around and use w/o thought
And yes, he doubled down when called out on it. That's almost always going to happen when someone who sincerely doesn't believe they're doing anything bigoted is called out for it in a public setting.
The real test will be whether he can learn (& apologize) as he gets more info
Also, HOLY FUCKING SHIT @pnj, you couldn't find an *actual* Jew to get a quote from, so you decided to go to a Christian LARPing as a Jew for missionizing purposes? What the absolute fuck? pnj.com/story/news/loc…