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Sep 4 14 tweets 4 min read
I like this nuanced rebuttal by @RogerPielkeJr of a new book claiming we should not mitigate climate change because the science is "not settled". I know Roger for a while now and I dare you to read the substack post and then (!) add your own analysis to this thread.
Basically this thread is about the question:

Should we strive for clarity and an 'us vs them' approach in communicating climate change,

OR should we stick to the science and the facts, even when they are messy and confusing?

Like Roger, I think it should be the latter.
Roger is extremely knowledgable on both policy making and extreme weather (he one of the world's leading experts on hurricanes) and he's convinced climate change is a large problem we have to tackle, but he's often vilified by people who's mission it is to combat climate change.
The reason is that he often points out lazy media stories on climate change. E.g. by pointing out that there were few tropical hurricanes by historic standards in 2021 and that the IPCC never predicted the inundation of Pakistan (rather the opposite).
I learned to value his opinion in the enormous twitter discussion on the RCP8.5 scenario that @MLiebreich kicked off with the tag #RCP85isBollox and in which I ended up tweeting the most. Later @RogerPielkeJr wrote an article with @jritch detailing why it's bollox.
I've also given a guest lecture on one of his courses and found (to my surprise) that's he's the opposite of a political hack or 'generally icky' (a description of @drvolts if memory serves).

Rather he is fond to point out where scientific facts and media/zealots clash.
My point here is not whether Roger is always right (I disagree with him often) but whether we should welcome people like him that don't toe a party line in the climate debate. And I think we should.
I'm mostly vegan, avoid flying, drive an EV, live in a wooden energy positive house, and making plans to mitigate climate change is my life. But dividing the world in 'us' (that combat climate change) and 'them' is unhelpful and unscientific in a time where we need science.
We need urgent action but this is a marathon, not a sprint. To convince skeptics and take the best actions, we must stay aligned to the facts, even if new facts challenge our assumptions or communication strategy.
For example: it's clear burning fossil fuels causes about 70% of global warming with most of the rest caused by deforestation, cows, and cement. It's also clear we have many low carbon alternatives, but which combination of them is optimal is still a puzzle. Let's admit that.
Or it's clear global warming is decimating species and will cause tens if not hundreds of millions of climate refugees and could accelerate further. (Not a big chance but why play Russian roulette?) But right now people die because of poverty and incompetence, not climate change.
Finally I think it's unhelpful to use climate change as a doomscenario. Rather we should focus on what kind of world we want and how we are going to get there. So don't focus on the fear but on the goal.
For me it's a more biodiverse world with extra room for nature in which humanity lives prosperously and more equal with few beggars and billionaires and a system of governance that listens to everyone's wishes. And I would love life to spread beyond earth. (What's your goal?)
Anyway, I think it's time to allow a more nuanced discussion on climate change. Of course we should point out who follows the science and who doesn't but casting nuance as heretical only gives us less chances to solve this and more books like "Unsettled".
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Sep 5
I love @KateRaworth but to be honest, I think solving the climate crisis is not really an economic problem and growing or shrinking GDP is a meaningless discussion.
Instead we should put behavioral scientists, engineers, and environmental scientists in the lead. I think.
🧵(rant)
To hear economist debate the issue always reminds me of "vital" discussions like "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?".

I think the problem is how we can prosper within planetary boundaries and economists (esp. degrowthers) have very little understanding of that.
Also the main degrowth argument comes down to this:
"You cannot prove your plans for Green Growth can keep us within planetary boundaries.
So we need to Degrow."

To which my answer is:
"Show me your plan to achieve Degrowth..."

And then it turns out there is no realistic plan.
Read 15 tweets
Aug 31
Mining battery materials does serious damage to the environment.

But fossil fuel does a lot MORE damage.

The claim in this tweet exaggerates the damage of mining Ontario's peatlands by a factor of about 2500.
🧵
The claim I read more and more: mining is bad so electric vehicles (EVs) are bad.
Which is fine as long as you COMPARE it to the damage of fossil fuel cars.

And even if you love the word "degrowth", uttering it doesn't mean everybody stops driving cars.
The tweet claims that mining in the peat lands of Ontario's ring of fire emits as much as 7 billion cars.

However, a source in the article claims that mining all claims in the ring of fire would emit 130 to 250 megaton of carbon. Let's say 200 megaton. How many cars is that?
Read 5 tweets
Aug 21
Seriously, this is how bitcoin enthusiasts see bitcoin helping to solve humanities' problems: they assume gas is leaked or vented because pipelines are too expensive and they can "solve" that by wasting the energy on site by mining bitcoin.
bitcoinmagazine.com/business/landf…
Once you have gas, it has value. I think by now everybody should have noticed. Capturing gas economically, especially at a landfill is hard. But the idea that it needs the business case of bitcoin mining to make it happen is just wishful thinking of bitcoiners.
For me it's the epitome of idiocy: "look I can waste money everywhere so I'm the solution to the climate problem".

IF it was really the case that we need some way to plop down demand next to a mine*... how about computers doing useful stuff? Lot's of those around.

*It isn't.
Read 5 tweets
Aug 21
I get a bit exasperated by nonsensical products that seem green. This tile is an example.

I'm no psychologist: it could be a fun an engaging way to make people walk more.

But in terms of energy: I estimate producing it requires 10-100x more energy than it can ever deliver.
According to the data from the video you get on average something like 2.5 Joule from each step.

The tiles are guaranteed for 5 years or 20 million steps. That means 50 million joules over the lifetime.

That's just 14 kWh over the lifetime of a tile.
To put that into perspective...

A solar panel in the Netherlands generates roughly 350 kWh per year (25x as much) and close to 10 MWh over its assumed 25 year lifetime (625x as much).

And I'm betting that producing and installing a solar panel emits less CO2 too.
Read 5 tweets
Aug 15
I just found sustainable HOPE!
And I want to share it.

In a nutshell: mining only uses 0.05% of the earth's habitable land, versus agriculture 50%: 1000x less!

What's more: the minerals we need for the transition to clean energy are a drop in the bucket compared to coal!
To start with that last point: there are 30 lithium mines in the world versus over 3000 coal mines!

I'm not saying we should mine lithium unsustainably but come on: that's peanuts compared to the coal mines (and oil fields!) lithium will help close.
nature.com/articles/s4159…
And in the same dataset (from 2020 in @Nature) I find that they put the entire area for mining at 57277 km2.
nature.com/articles/s4159…
That is about 0.05% of habitable land (less if you include barren land) while we use 50% of habitable land for agriculture.
ourworldindata.org/land-use
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Aug 15
A recent journal paper asks:
"When does keeping your gasoline car that's already produced beat buying a new EV?"

As you can see, it doesn't make sense if you drive 15000 km per year, but you can also see (greyed out) the original study was a bit of a mess.

Let me explain in a🧵
First the corrections. Had I peer reviewed the article I would have send it back for major revisions to be honest.

Let me use my article on the 6 biggest mistakes people use when comparing electric vehicles and combustion vehicles to explain it.
sciencedirect.com/science/articl…
Mistake 1: Overestimating battery production

The paper uses another paper calculating battery emissions as 177 kg CO2 per kWh of battery.

But they are comparing a @VW eGolf. And @VW itself claims production emits 74 kg CO2/kWh (a mainstream value now).
volkswagenag.com/en/news/storie…
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