interestingly the pimander (or poimandres) (in the corpus hermetica, ie the hermetic writings) describes something like the orthodox toll houses: that at death, the spirit, having shed the body, goes up thru several stations “yielding” specific moral characters to certain demons:
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something extremely interesting here (this was written in greek, would have been known for sure in a place like alexandria i am fairly certain), the “stations” correspond to the planets, which in many worldviews would have corresponded to actual spheres enclosing each other.
would be interesting to know if the toll houses as a concept are hooked into a classical cosmology of spheres enclosing the world, therefore logically the soul would have to travel through them, like toll booths, on the way back out of the material plane, or who else noticed this
although im certain im not the first person to notice this, googling many combinations of these terms brings no results.
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here's one of my favorite real life useful examples and practical demonstrations of a seemingly niche and abstract theological principle:
[intellect vs love] as seen in plotinus vs augustine when applied to: addiction
i.e. christianity vs neoplatonism in behavior modification
when i handle spiritual ideas, one of the angles i take on them is "okay, so, what does this mean in terms of: what you should do?"
whats the endpoint for this path and ideas in terms of: well, what do you do about it?
therefore i naturally reached this point with neoplatonism
neoplatonism (developing and implementing the ideas of plato over time, they wouldn't have called themselves this) has all the "plato stuff", if ur unfamiliar w it. theres this realm up there, ideal forms, here we are in the physical world, and there is some.. interplay, lets say
okay. take a slightly insane walk with me (if you want) into something i have been thinking about recently:
God, logic, inherent properties of space, and creation
over the last year i have been thinking a lot about the laws of logic and God. they seem to be a perfect touchstone for questions about God's relationship to reality - the main question being, did God freely decree the laws of logic?
"freely" being the operative word.
it seems like the most common answer to this is: no. no, in the sense that, they could not have been different. this is how i mean "freely decree": could God have made a universe where 7 + 1 = 1000 and 8 + 1 = 1. it seems like the answer, for most people, is no.
got some jehovahs witnesses at my door today. i really enjoy interacting with missionaries but find i often have to squeeze the real pitch out of them. theyre like “hey we’re just sharing a bible verse with people” and im like, come on. lets go. why would i join ur club. sell me.
i asked a few questions about their christology as i figured that would be the main doctrinal difference between them and normative christianity. as you may know they dont think Christ is God, are non trinitarian, actually they dont even think the holy ghost is a person. […]
out of genuine curiosity i asked, so how do u read john 1 that says, in the beginning the word was God and so on. so she says, well actually if you look at the greek, it should say “a god”, not just “god”. so i said, so you believe in more than one god then. Christ is “a God”.
🚨 red alert small town adventures: a tiny cat is in the middle of the road yelling. perhaps for help. i have the dog. it is the smallest cat i have ever seen in real life
this is not a good place for the cat. yet i cannot approach it with the dog. i am caught in the web of life
the dog is alarmed by this small animals distress call. a fall breeze in the air meanders between her perked ears
i am looking at the cat. i am going to approach the cat, hopefully it will recoil from me and the dog and leave its precarious position (in the road)
plot twist. the cat approaches me and the dog. it is not scared of us. it keeps coming towards us. i have moved away from the cat to a local shady tree. the cat is coming here. it is not scared of the dog.
it is seeking succor from the dog and i. how will the dog react: unknown
debord wrote a book: society of the spectacle, saying that life in modernity had become an event for a few while most people remained passive observers. this was before social media. really, that would be ok. he missed the insidious part: the spectators must clap, cheer, boo, etc
had a conversation with a girl recently that made me think of this. she is very tuned in. she claps, boos, cheers from her seat - and she finds this exhausting, spiritually and physically. but what can she do? to have no reaction would make her a freak, its not an option, to her.
this fosters a strange kind of resentment that extends in many directions and is difficult to analyze.
feel like i should just report some anecdotal evidence that a girl from central europe is staying at my house and told me a family friend in the mountains there dug under his house + found tunnels with medieval and ancient artifacts and then the government came and closed it up
she told me there was templar-esque stuff and ancient panels with writing, and that she saw these things herself. apparently the guy figured out that a [certain g3rman government] and the vatican were aware of the tunnels back in the day, and he used to take his friends into them
told me she saw one of the panels. made it sound like a ‘tablet’, and that there was a kind of writing carved into it in a way where u could only read it in a certain lighting. shes just a random normal non-esoteric not online friend of my wife who casually mentioned all this.