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That the Mahābhārata is concomitant w/the Iliad can be seen through narrative parallels. Any rapprochment need not imply a direct derivation of one from the other, but it may point to a common kernel between both. One such association can be seen between Agamemnon & Duryodhana
As aforementioned, the two warriors Agamemnon & Duryodhana share similar narrative stories within either plot including but not limited to: reprehensible behavior to the goddess' sons, abjure the advice of elders, commit malfeasances on women, offending the auguries of seers
Similar modalities of the infamous offenses committed against both Briseis & Draupadī (by Agamemnon & Duryodhana) ie., it becoming the impetus for initiating the narrative plot. In either case, divine intervention (Athena & Kṛṣṇa) save them from noblemen of the royal retinues
The author notes that in both Epics, the order to bring the offended woman to court given by intimately associated noblemen Achilles's friend Patroclus & Duryodhana's brother Duḥśāsana, consists of 4 metric elements (pādas vs dactylic hexameters), & subsequent vows of vengeance
2 preeminent generals at Troy & Kurukṣetra (Agamemnon+ Dhṛṣṭadyumna) have a set of commonalities: fathers mired in contests w/kith & kin, loss of kingdoms at hands of divinity due to sin, birth of children to avenge & exact retribution, death via treachery in enemy's abode
Some backstory on Dhṛṣṭadyumna's father Drupada & Droṇa ie., promises of kingdom sharing later shattered by the former when reminded by the latter. Snubbing, the latter, an Ārṣeya Brahmaṇa, has ramifications for Drupada who eventually must forfeit half his kingdom to Droṇa
We may mention the connections between the antagonist warrior-generals Hector of the Trojans & Duryodhana of the Kauravas: both have supernatural armor, divine intervention in their duels on behalf of their opponents, die on the last day of battle as their armies lose, etc
Both Hector & Duryodhana contemplate surrendering to Achilles & the Pāṇḍavas, but remembering their warrior creed choose to fight to death (for similar rationales). In the final battle both Patroclus & Karṇa target the most powerful opposing warrior to kill (Hector & Arjuna)
The tone at the end of both epics is beset by the death of both warrior's closest confidants (Patroclus for Achilles & Kṛṣṇa for Arjuna). Some discussions ensue w/regards to Patroclus' death at the hands of Hector & Jara mistakenly killing Kṛṣṇa (Heracles fights w/Gễras)
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Otherwise protagonists of their respective stories, leonine heroes Bhīma & Achilles engage in decapitation of their enemies during fits of rage against Duḥśāsana (whose blood is drunk by Bhīma) & Hector (corpse thrown into river)...acts which are rebuked by the Gods themselves
>Bhīma's decapitation of Duḥśāsana, Dhṛṣṭadyumna (Drupada's son+Draupadī's brother), for his vile decapitation of Droṇa (midbattle over grief of son's supposed death via Kṛṣṇa & Bhīma), is killed by Droṇa's son Aśvatthāmā (Droṇa earlier secured 1/2 of Drupada's kingdom)
In Thebes & Dvārakā, the death of the protagonists are brought about by curses. Oedipius kills his father & marries his mother via prophecy thwarting puts Thebes at the mercy of the Sphinx & Kṛṣṇa is cursed by Gāndhārī for his conduct, both who pass on the curses to their sons
The above excerpt notes the common motif regarding "the seven": 7 Argive chieftains vs 7 Theban Chieftains+ 7 champions of Kṛṣṇa vs the 7 great warriors of Kṛtavarman. Some discussion ensues about blind monarchs & widowed matriarchs impregnated by deceased husband's relatives
In both Thebes & Kurukṣetra, key conflicts take place as a result of disputes over the allocation of the kingdom within the same family amid the background of curses. Disputes over allocation foments mistrust, treachery, exile, rapprochement by the mother of the unjust king, etc
Dvārāka & Troy's destruction are both similar in that the former is swallowed by the sea and the latter has an encampment destroyed by the sea. Supernatural & divine forces (Varuṇa+Poseidon) intercede to hasten the destruction of these cities.
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The commonalities between the King Dhr̥tarāṣṭra of Hāstinapura & the King Priam of Troy may be cited: both sire sons w/many wives, all but one of their sons survive the war, neither king has control over the offenses committed by their sons in conjunction w/either female figure
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The story of Paris parallels with Karṇa's story. During the prelude to end of hostilities in both Epical traditions there is talk of supernatural sources of nourishment. Śiva associates w/Apollo.
Dionysus gives Anius the privilege of an unending supply of food & Sūrya bestows upon Yudhiṣṭhira an inexhaustible amount of food. In both Indic & Hellenic epical traditions, there is a so called interim period, divinely ordained, must be adhered to in which hostilities cannot
(...continued from above) ensue & the respective characters' obeisance, or lack thereof, of the aforementioned is a common motif representing ominous portents
Some co-ordinated personages include twins Nakula/Sahadeva w/the Dioscouri, relations of prominent females figures, Menelaus w/Yudhiṣṭhira, Pāṇḍava-s (Arjuna & Bhīma) w/Heracles & though Heracles does not feature prominently, he serves as an archetypical warrior
Discussion w.r.t the ascension of the throne in Hāstinapura: Śaṃtanu's first son from Ganga Bhīṣma's renunciation & vow of celibacy induces Satyavatī to ask her clandestine son Vyāsa to sire heirs w/her son Vichitravirya's wives thus begetting the blind Dhr̥tarāṣṭra & Pāṇḍu
Dynastic rivalries belie the premature birth of Heracles & Yudhiṣṭhira highlights 2 sons fathered by coital encounters between god & a mortal woman stripped of their rights to the throne by their opponents & monarchial succession passed on to the king's brother not his children
Pāṇḍavā patriarch & Heracles’ father (Pāṇḍu & Amphitryon) are connected by common motifs: both estranged from the throne & exiled from their kingdom for inadvertently slewing a ṛṣi/Electryon in the stead of buck/kine + their births having genesis in supernatural intercourse
Pāṇḍavā-s & Heracles motifs: Hera strips Heracles of his kingdom at birth &undergoes the twelve labors in exile for 12 years + 1 year of servitude for Omphale in Lydia. Pāṇḍavās face a 12 year exile ending in joint marriage to Draupadī + 1 year of servitude to Virāṭa's court
Interesting schema of the common motifs of bellicosity in the personages of Bhīma & Hercales: brutish character qualities, wield blunt rudimentary weapons, possess superhuman juggernaut-like strength, lack of awareness for divine & peripheral spaces+ supernatural powers
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Heracles executes the rescue of Hesione (daughter of Laomedon & princess of Troy) & Bhīma executes the rescue of a mendicant ascetic from the demon Baka. There may be a connection b/w Mbh's Baka, Kirmīra, Drilling Woods reflexing the Homeric story of Odysseus & Cyclops Polyphemus
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Parallels b/w Heracles & Rāma Jāmadagnya: both fusillade the Sun w/arrows and in return the Sun pleads with them to cease by offering them divine objects (golden cup/sacrificial boon), both similarly fusillade the Ocean w/arrows, both systematically massacre their enemies
Quotidian parallels b/w Arjuna & Heracles: both fight superhuman enemies at the behest of their fathers, both borne of the thunder gods (Indra & Zeús, Amphitryon is his foster father), both undertake archery competitions to win a princess, both kill their preceptors in battle
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Parallels b/w Dionysus & Kṛṣṇa: Divine dichotomous status' displays gamut of human emotions, kill Antaeus/Jarāsaṃdha by throwing them in the air & break them over their knees+Penthueus/Śiśupāla's heretic invectives result in their physical dismemberment, salvational lap motif
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All excerpts from 'The Mahābhārata and Greek Mythology' by Wulff Alonso. (Pro-tip: he finds good commonalities, but his conjecture that the Mbh is sourced from the Illiad is quackery repeated as much the late Nick Allen whose work I will reference soon

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Feb 28, 2021
A quick gloss on Gold in Vedic & Hellenic poetry:
Gold is likened to virile seed in both's mythos. In ŚB 12.7.1.1 retasa evāsya rūpam asravat tat suvarṇaṃ hiraṇyaṃ abhavat (from his *Indra* seed his form flowed, & became gold) while in Pindar's Pythian Ode 12.17 υἱὸς Δανάας Image
τὸν ἀπὸ χρυσου̂ φαμεν αὐτορύτου ἔμμεναιie (Perseus, the son of Danae, who they say was conceived in a spontaneous shower of gold). It is worth glossing that retas (sperma) is rationalized as gold as a manifestation of light, light being the common element between the two
That the divinity of Indian nobility was accepted is furthermore affirmed by the occurrence of gold in ritualistic paraphernalia such as the robe/appearance of a king, gold among his possessions of tiger skin & gems, slaughtering-knife of the aśvamedha horse made of gold. Image
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