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Dec 5, 2022 20 tweets 10 min read Read on X
1/ BREAKING: As reported overnight in @thetimes there is a new consultation out later today

google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t…

A short 🧵 in some of the detail

TLDR: Some helpful bits, but too litttle, too late with NOTHING for AA/LTA
2/ The consultation is expected to be published later this morning

Heres a snapshot of what it covers (and what it doesnt)
3/ The main areas cover 3 main areas

- Some pension flexibilities around retirement only
- Some changes (not enough) to deal with inflation
- minor access changes to PCNs
4/ (1)

Changes to pensionable retirement - i.e. retiring from 1995 pension and being re-employed in 2015 and still earning 2015 benefits (a big deal - weve been asking for this for years)
5/ Previously if you worked beyond 60 you would burn 95 pension as there are no #lateretirementfactors

Now you can conintue to build 2015 pension whilst drawing some of all of your 1995 benefits (but reducing pensionable pay >10%)
6/ This option doesnt of course take pension taxation away, but it does mean for example a member could partially retire if they reached (the now falling in real terms) LTA and continue saving 2015 pension (still subject to AA and LTA; but at least they crystalised some benefits)
7/ Partial retirement will allow drawing 100% of the benefits in 1995 - important so AA issues will only arise from the other scheme not the interaction of schemes.
8/ The 16 hour rule also removed
9/ (2) Next the bits about inflation - or rather fixing the bits they have already announced ignoring #NegativePIAs

As previusly announced this will be done by moving revaluation dates in 2015 / 1995 GP scheme to 6th April
10/ This does help align revluation to the opening value for #CPIdisconnect, but IGNORES the massive problems with #fixnegativePIAs

Very dissapointing they didnt fix this - @thebma, @NHSEmployers & @AISMANewsline all asked @hmtreasury for this
11/ The failure to address this will leave members MASSIVLEY overpaying AA charges for non-existent growth in 2023/4 and 2024/5 - we will continue to lobby HM Treasury for this
12/ There will also be some small changes to scheme access to allow PCNs staff to acces the NHS pension scheme
13/ All in all there are some positives here - partial retirement & a fix of *some* of the problems relating to inflation #CPIdisconnect but IGNORING issues of inflation related negative PIAs (a *massive deal*).
14/ But crucially whilst this does help those who are peri-retirement, it does *nothing* for mid career doctors punished by unfair punitive AA and LTA taxes. They will continue to reduce activity / retire early to avoid these charges. Still need #taxunregistered #FixTheFinanceAct
15/ 15/ Read the @bma_pensions comment in the Times - "the proposed changes appear to be too little, too late...doctors will continue to receive sky high & completely unexpected tax bills by continuing to provide care for patients, care they desperately need"
17/ The @DHSCgovuk press release is here:

gov.uk/government/new…
18/ According to @willquince "senior staff will no longer feel forced to retire early, ultimately benefiting patients by ensuring their expertise remains in the NHS for longer so we can continue to deliver world-class healthcare."
19/ I disagree - unless & until @DHSCgovuk @hmtreasury recognise the driver of this is the general annual allowance & rapidly reducing lifetime allowance, I am afraid higher earning NHS staff will continue to reduce activity & retire earlier than they might have #TaxUnregistered
20/ Read the full consultation here:

gov.uk/government/con…

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Oct 4
1/6 Many thanks 🙏👏 to the *HUGE* response to sign ups to my future modelling work at

Following a meeting with colleagues at @TheIFS its really got me thinking about the ridiculous #TaperTaxHell. More info watch the 📹 & 🧵👇

Pls RT/Shr/WhatsApp/FB etc bit.ly/GPFTinterest
2/ With BMA colleagues we discussed ridiculous tax cliffs in the system which provide a massive discincentive to do extra work (both £100k & £200k tax cliffs) & incentives for some to even DECREASE extra work. Terrible for patients #WaitingLists

Who would want to #TaperTaxHell Image
3/ But my chart (left) & DHSC example they used to DDRB in 24/25 show only THAT individual, in THAT tax year (and 24/25 was terrible for many).

But it doesnt help an INDIVIDUAL know THEIR position, especially given disatrous pension admin from NHS pension (often years late) Image
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Aug 19
1/ NEW & important - for many of you (the lucky ones) in England & Wales, the new style annual benefit statement - or "Total Reward Statement" has dropped for the 24/25 - but this one is different - very short 🧵

Log in to see if yours is there at

Pls RT totalrewardstatements.nhs.ukImage
2/ So what's different this time? Crucially this is first set of statements to acknowledge the McCloud remedy for those affected (usually those in NHS pension in March 2012 and between 2015-22).

You will basically get 2 sets of statements "STANDARD" benefits and "ALTERNATIVE" Image
3/ STANDARD will show ROLLED BACK benefits. Your STANDARD benefits will be in your OLD legacy scheme i.e. 1995 or 2008 for 7 year between 2015-22

ALTERNATIVE will have those 7 years in the 2022 scheme.

EVERYONE (in both set) is in the new 2015 scheme from 2022 Image
Read 8 tweets
Jan 23
1/ NEW & V IMPORTANT update from @nhs_pensions on pension savings statements for 23/24
•@nhs_pensions have self reported to the regulator
•what do YOU need to do for Self Assessment (31/1)
•What compensation might be due
•Next steps

Summary 🧵please read & share/RT Image
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2/ So firstly after @BMA_Pensions wrote to the NHSBSA CEO this is the first time they have openly confirmed in this letter that thay have reported this issue to The Pensions Regulator (our complaint in the quoted tweet below) 👇

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3/ So importantly WHEN are YOU expected to get your 23/24 PSS which you need for your self assessment 31st Jan 2025 (8 days away)

Well they expect to START issuing them by February 27th 2025

@nhs_pensions have asked @BMA_Pensions to be involved in assurance after the errorsImage
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Dec 26, 2024
1/ V. Important 🧵 if you are CONSULANT in England. This week I used my FREE modeller to identify & correct an error in #AnnualAllowance for 24/25 which I suspect may be a common error. It will save me over £2,600 from my AA liability, buckle up & see if you are affected
Ps RT Image
2/ As many of you will know Twitter/X is now really difficult to see the information you want to see from the people you follow so please help by RT, but also sending your colleagues on whatsap / FB groups if you think this will help them Image
3/ In preparation go onto ESR, download Mar '24, May '24 + Nov '24 payslips & 23/24 TRS (+/- 22/23 TRS) - and then I will talk you through IF you are also affected by this "misallocated arrears" error, tell you how to model the impact of this, and how to correct thisImage
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Dec 12, 2024
1/ THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Whilst I'm grateful for the changes to LTA/AA, the AA and the dreaded #taper still remain. And here's your regular reminder why its PARTICULARLY unfair, and stupid, in the NHS (from @BMA_Pensions @TheBMA evidence to DDRB).

Short 🧵pls read & share Image
2/ We are all in CARE now, so should all be paying generally the same employEE contributions.

But we aren't - and its worst - by a garden mile - in the NHS per this chart showing the ratio of conts from the highest earners : lowest earners in the public sector 👇Image
3/ So unlike in the private sector where there is no difference in cost for higher vs lower owners other than tax relief, we go through this ridiculously unfair step in the NHS - far worse than anywhere in the public sector - that strips away our higher rate reliefImage
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Dec 10, 2024
1/ very important and NEW: @nhs_pensions have overnight issues guidance on 23/24 tax year where they have failed to send you a pensions savings statement on time (which was their legal duty)

nhsbsa.nhs.uk/public-service…Image
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2/ the bottom line is they expect you ESTIMATE your carry forward and PIA and any charge in the normal timescale ie by Jan 31st 2025 …. Which is going to be extremely difficult ….. Image
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3/ after you estimate you will have until Jan 26 to correct your estimation based on the real figures Image
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