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Dec 7, 2022 18 tweets 7 min read Read on X
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Fri. 4PM. You just got consult #8.

Then, a call: "We have a new consult. This patient's been here for 2 weeks. We’re not sure what’s going on & wanted you on board.”

😱

You: "…so, what’s the question…?"

How do we improve this interaction?

This week: Receiving Consults
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About 3 yrs ago on a thread about the cognitive aspects of consults I posted this poll:


Nearly 2/3 of >1100 respondents said “anticipated pushback” was the biggest anxiety-inducing factor when calling a consult.

This is a problem.
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"Pushback" can be intentional or perceived. Either way it is not a desirable component of consultation (for EITHER side).

This week our focus is the consult request interaction, including its goals & downstream consequences, and strategies to make it more productive.
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There are “cognitive” 🧠 & “social” 🤝 aspects of the initial consult request.

We focus a lot on the former, but I’ll make a case that the latter is more important.

But let’s start w/ the cognitive piece - what info do consultants need to get from the initial interaction?
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Of course, the “consult QUESTION”…right?

Yes, the quality of the “consult question” is often identified as THE most important factor in the *perceived* quality/impact of a consult.

It’s also been linked to better downstream teaching interactions!
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26077219/
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Given this prevailing wisdom, there are many frameworks to help improve the consult request & ALL of them emphasize having a “good” question.

They also all target the team REQUESTING the consult.

But what about the team RECEIVING the consult?
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For consultants, our contribution to this interaction often goes: “so…what’s your QUESTION?”

Try asking this WITHOUT it coming across as annoyed. (H/T to @jen_babik)

Indeed, despite our best intentions, the primary team may perceive this question VERY differently.
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Instead of fixating on a specific consult “question” upfront – which may prematurely narrow the scope of our input – a lower stakes & more achievable goal is simply to establish the consult “type”.

Here’s a framework adapted from how I discuss this with our fellows.
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Now, I hear the naysayers already.

How will they learn to ask “good questions”?
How will I know what I’m being asked to do?
But maybe I really DON’T need to do a full consult?

All fair points.

But, is the consult request phone call really the optimal time to address them?
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The consult question IS an important framing device. But, harping on it can convey hesitance & be counterproductive.

What can we say to keep things more open-ended?
🌟 How can we help?
🌟 What’s worrying you?

And we can always clarify the "ask" AFTER seeing the patient!
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Let’s pivot to the “social” aspects of the consult request interaction.

The CONTEXT of the consult process (time/workload pressures) underlies most of what we call “pushback”.

@gradydoctor captured this perfectly in this thread
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These contextual factors can translate into explicit or implicit disagreement about the need (“appropriateness”), urgency, sophistication, or “interestingness” of the consult request. This is “pushback”.

How do we mitigate this?

The interpersonal dynamic is key.
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In semi-structured interviews w/ physicians in EM/IM/surgery, Chan et al (2014) identified conflict-mitigating & exacerbating factors in the referral-consultation dynamic (see table).

Which factors rose to the top?

✅ Familiarity
✅ Empathy
✅ Humility
✅ Professionalism
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We know these from experience.

Consultants don’t push back when they know the caller, empathize w/ their dilemma, & perceive equal engagement in the problem, no matter what it is.

The challenge is time.

How do we cultivate all this in a brief phone call?
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Some strategies:

1⃣ Frame the callback by accepting the consult – negotiate about WHEN you'll see the patient, not IF
2⃣ Convey empathy – acknowledge the clinical dilemma, no matter what it is
3⃣ Express humility/curiosity – the consult is often not what you think it is
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This seems easy. BUT:

Have I had less than ideal initial consult interactions? For sure.

Have I given “pushback”? Sad to say, but yes.

Have I let “context” best me? Many times.

Do I think receiving consults effectively is a skill I can intentionally develop/improve? YES!
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To recap:

The initial consult interaction has important cognitive & social elements, & its success depends on inputs from both sides.

In this thread I’ve outlined strategies to help consultants/specialty trainees be a bit more “meta” about this routine aspect of our work.
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Next week @JenniferSpicer4 will continue this series on “Teaching Consultant Skills,” with “Effective Data Gathering.”

Remember to check out #SubspecialtyTeaching @MedEdTwagTeam to keep up with all our threads in one place!

See you next week!

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Mar 14, 2023
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You’re starting a consult service block.

But this time is different.

-Maybe you don’t have a consult “team” to teach
-Maybe you want to showcase your specialty & recruit interested trainees
-Maybe you want to build ties to other service lines

What to do?

This week: Image
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@JenniferSpicer4 and I have spent the last few weeks exploring the "why", the "who", and the "when" of teaching the primary team in our role as consultants.

Now let's turn to the "what".

What repertoire of teaching scripts should we strive to develop as specialists?
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1⃣ Content knowledge

It's natural to gravitate toward teaching specialty-specific content - that's our expertise!

We've covered a lot of this territory in prior threads.

I'm going to highlight some of those pearls & point out specific strategies for teaching primary teams.
Read 16 tweets
Feb 28, 2023
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You staff a new consult w/ your team. You share pearls & make a plan.

Then:
🩻 You review the CT w/ radiology.
🤝 You chat w/ another consult service.
🗣️ You deliver your recs at the workroom.
📲 You call night float w/ an update.

So many opportunities to teach!

This week: Image
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Last week @JenniferSpicer4 kicked off our segment on "Teaching the Primary Team" by focusing on "The Why."



This week, for "The Who", I want to think beyond just the primary team to identify the many different learners we encounter as consultants.
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Why?

Even though the primary team is the obvious audience for teaching - their "ask" is what invited us into the case to begin with! - we usually interface with many other teams in the process of rendering our opinion.

All of these teams have learners we can impact!
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Feb 14, 2023
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2pm. Usual day on ID consults.

Learner: “So the patient had [complex multi-stage procedure w/ prosthetic material] yesterday. Turns out they were bacteremic.”

You: "and...?"

Learner: "They want antibiotic recs...I'm not sure how to approach that..."

You: 🤷

This week:
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Consultants are often called upon for input on management.

Typically, this means helping with a clinical decision (which test? which treatment?).

Management reasoning refers to the cognitive processes by which clinicians make those decisions.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29800012/
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Teaching & assessing clinical decision-making skills is HARD.

Without a framework for the cognitive processes involved, it can be challenging to isolate the specific skills a learner needs to work on.

This leads to unhelpful feedback like "lacks confidence" (which = 🤷).
Read 20 tweets
Feb 8, 2023
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You’re staffing a complex patient w/ a learner on your consult team.

As they present it's clear the case was challenging for them.

They get to their assessment & take a breath.

You hit ⏸️ & say…”You know what? Let’s think through this dx together.”

What next?

This week:
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Consultants are often asked to assist with diagnosis.

What do we bring to the table?

An easy answer is deeper knowledge of a specific subset of presenting problems & diseases.

Focused clinical exposure means that we develop a unique & rich library of schemas & scripts.
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Though specialty-specific knowledge is essential to effective diagnostic reasoning for consultants, it is not enough.

Our unique 'invited' role in cases means we also need to have specific (meta)cognitive skills & habits.

Those skills/habits are part of a teachable process.
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Jan 17, 2023
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9am. Consults.

Them: “We want you on board because ____ is 'refusing' to do this procedure but ____ says it's needed. You're the tiebreaker.”

You: [sigh] “OK.”

⌛️

Patient: “Ah! ____ said YOU'RE the one holding up my discharge!”

You: 🙄

Feeling triggered yet?

This week: Image
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Conflict is inevitable when working within a system.

What do I mean when I say “conflict”? 🤔 For the purposes of this 🧵 let me paraphrase a huge body of literature w/ the following definition:

Conflict is “disagreement” that causes (or has the potential to cause) “harm”.
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Let's unpack this a bit more w/ a focus on conflict in consultative care.

"Disagreement" is a broad term.

It can stem from...
↪️ real OR perceived differences in opinion
↪️ about diagnosis OR management
↪️ between the primary team & the consultant OR between consultants
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Dec 20, 2022
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5pm. ID consults.

On 📞 giving recs re: culture growing Serratia.

Them: TY for seeing our patient!

You: Of course! BTW do you know the hx of Serratia? No? Well let me tell you about Operation Sea-Spray…

⌛️

Them: ...So should we start abx? Which one?

You: 😳

This week: Image
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So far @JenniferSpicer4 & I have explored consultant skills pertaining to the consult "ask".

We'll now focus on how to respond to the ask, verbally & through notes.

Let's start w/ a poll of those of you who CALL consults:

What is your PREFERRED way to receive consult recs?
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Previous studies suggest that verbal communication of consultant recs – especially initial recs - is preferred by most clinicians.

Additionally, lack of in-person interaction w/ consultants is one factor hospitalists identify as negatively impacting learning & patient care. Image
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