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1/ This is a *really* important thread🧵 re current pensions consultation. I need you to take time to read it properly & watch the 2 videos / modelling done with @gdcuk

They are trying to steal your pension, whilst pretending they are fixing a problem. Read, 👀 2 videos & RT Image
2/ Ive been tweeting for some some time now about the *huge* problems created for NHS pension by high inflation & the interaction with something called #CPIdisconnect & #FixNegativePIAs

3/ Ive always been clear that we need to #FixTheFinanceAct specifically in relation to CPI disconnect (Section 235)

4/ and also crucially to negative pension growth caused in S234.

To not fix this is tantamount to "pension theft"

5/ Earlier in the week, Government announced to great fanfare that they had fixed the issues so "clinicians don't feel like they need to take earlier retirement or reduce hours"

6/ SPOILER ALERT: They havent fixed this at all, especially in some groups (just read the comments now including around 200 GPs & consultants)

7/ Ive recorded a short video talking about the issues of CPI disconnect and introducing the complex concept of negative pension growth



*PLEASE* take the 20mins time to watch it (best view HD on a computer)
8/ In that video I talk at length about this slide about the interaction between 4 factors each year:
- September CPI
- "Opening value"
- Pay awards
- "Revaluation"

Government have proposed at best a partial fix to inflation related problems Image
9/ Next we look at an article from @thetimes in which Secretary of State @SteveBarclay discusses the consultation announced later that day Image
10/ In that article Mr. Barclay gives a (somewhat exaggerated) example which could imply doctors can earn pensionable income of £174k (not many doctors around earning that) with virtually no AA charges thanks to the "fix" Image
11/ But in the next video, pensions expert @gdcuk reverse engineers that case to show that not all is quite as it seems with what Mr. Barclay implies



Again take time to watch this video in detail (ideally in HD on a computer)
12/ The tax charge is not £ 628 as Mr. Barclay implies, but rather £ 5,811 - but in any event its a highly unusual tax year (22/23) as its the only tax year ever (or future) where there is no "revaluation/dynamization" as they have been moved back 6 days to next tax year
13/ But more importantly the selective case studies masks the ENORMOUS pension theft which happens in future years with MASSIVE negative pension loss (£100k in 23/24 and 85k in 24/25). Image
14/ This changes the 4 year pension liability from £39,971 to *ZERO* - as in NADA / NOTHING / ZILCH if negative pension growth is calculated, not ignoring negative growth - i.e. measuring *REAL* growth above inflation. Image
15/ Next we look at the effect of doing some "extra work" to help with the 7.2m waiting list - doing 12 PAs, and only 1 8 hour list per month at @TheBMA rates pushes that pension tax charge to 76k - higher by 36k for *ABSOLUTELY NO PENSION BENEFIT*. Just scandalous Image
16/ Unsurprisingly a higher earning member like Mr. Barclay cases study might be advised to drop the waiting list work, and indeed go from 12 PAs to less - and thats no suprise as it might make complete financial sense to do so to not #PayingToWork Image
17/ In the video next @gcduk and I look at a much more realistic case (remembering this was Mr. Barclays case, not mine or @TheBMA at look at a more realistic mid career consultant example

18/ We also look forward 10 years in this case and just look at the difference looking at negative PIAs (with carry forward) can make Image
19/ Over 10 years the pension tax charge is £68,498 - but counting negative pension growth i.e. *ACTUALLY* measuring *REAL* growth above inflation that falls to £19,763 - some £48,735 lower ImageImage
20/ Just process that for a minute - they ignore the *MASSIVE* pension loss caused by subinflationary pay in tax years 23/24 and 24/25 (yellow) & instead of processing this fairly to measure real growth above inflation (green) they "zero" this off (red) and ignore it Image
21/ The net result is that you *MASSIVELY* overpay tax. And as its highly likely you cant afford to pay these AA charges from net income / savings, you are then forced to use expensive scheme pays loans based on inflation + 2.4% - despite your 1995 pension deflating, *massively*
22/ If you are not angry by this pension theft, which is what this is tantamount to, you may not have understood the problem as its complicated. If so *please* take the time to learn about this, and watch all the videos above, in detail.
23/ If you think this is me or the @BMA_Pensions moaning about something pretty niche, you are wrong. We are not the only ones jumping up and down about this, see what @Policy_Exchange @NHSEmployers @AISMANewsline have also called for in recent months, as well as Dr. Dan Poulter Image
24/ Government cannot on one hand claim in the consultation that the intention of government is to "only measure growth above inflation".

They are doing nothing of the sort, and in the process they are massively & unfairly decreasing your pension Image
25/ Our new chancellor @Jeremy_Hunt knows this is a problem

#FixTheFinanceAct #FixNegativePIAs #TaxUnregistered

Its time to fix this properly, before its too late

RT if you are fed up with them robbing your pension & destroying the NHS

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Mar 29
1/ NEW & IMPORTANT: LOTS of new data this week incl new pay data 28/3/24 👇 NEW charts incl NHS satisfaction (SPOILER: Its grim #MindTheGap)

MUST fix pay/retention to fix #WaitingLists- next GE WILL be won/lost on NHS.

Please read whole [long bumper] 🐇🧵 & share widely/RT

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2/ You'll notice when ministers are in the media, they often talk about how hard "your viewers/listeners" have been hit by inflation. But what we need to do is separate fact from fiction (aka LIES), it was 👇excellent @jburnmurdoch @FT chart that really showed this well last year Image
@jburnmurdoch @FT 3/ But its not just government ministers gaslighting NHS workers that they have no right for their pay to keep up (like everyone else's), it was also so-called "independent" DDRB👇

Apparently doctors & dentists should not be protected when "its not taking place in other groups" Image
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Feb 24
1/ *VERY* concerned about the quality & type of information coming to @BMA_Pensions members to allow them to make choices in regards to McCloud.

For members who chose to move to 2008 (so called "choice 2", we saw the first of this information last week - deep dive 🧵
Pls RT

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2/ OK first of all, lets rewind. Pre 2008 we were all in the 1995 section. For most members that had a fixed retirement age of 60, and gave us "80ths" of final salary. Work 40 years, get 40/80ths or 1/2 of your final salary. Simple. Back in the day contributions were 5% or 6%
3/ As we all started to live longer, government felt this was unnafordable as we were spending longer in retirement. So they introduced the 2008 scheme
- 1/60th not 1/80ths
- Retire at 65 not 60
- So called "Reckonable" pay - based on best of 3yr in last 10, inflation adjusted
Read 30 tweets
Feb 22
1/ NEW: Consultation response out & confirmaiton of rates 1st April '24 , dropping the 13.5% tier.

Grateful government listened to concerns about feezing the top tier so tiers WILL uplift with CPI, not creating (another) "fiscal drag" for higher earners

gov.uk/government/con…
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2/ This repesents a change from previously announced where tiers were to be uplifts of AFC awards (largest employee group). I had suggested a "double lock" of greater of CPI or announced awards, which was supported by the scheme board, but sadly rejected by government Image
3/ @BMA_Pensions again raised concerns that the @nhs_pensions has a higher contribution rate than many public sector schemes, and has the steepest structure.
We continue believe it should be much flatter, or flat, in a CARE scheme will all paying the same for the same £1 pension Image
Read 6 tweets
Jan 15
1/ NEW & BREAKING: @instituteforgov supported in analysis by @CIPFA issue an UPDATED pay erosion chart for NHS workers including @TheBMA doctors & @theRCN nurses👇

WHY is this so relevant: This now includes pay data released in '24 to Sept '23 INCLUDING 6/12 of 23/24 pay awads
2/ This crucially important 📉shows

- pay erosion in NHS from austerity
- uses CPI preferred by gvmnt & some economists
- crucially shows 6/12 effect of DDRB 23/24- starting basis for all pay deals (i.e. not a lot) Image
@RobLaurensonD4P @_VivekTrivedi @TheBMA @BMA_Consultants @BMA_JuniorDocs @Doctors_Vote 3/ So this chart uses the latest available data (released in 2024) includes the latest pay deals

Despite this @BMA_JuniorDocs down a STAGGERING 25.0% in real terms

REMEMBER: This is using CPI, not RPI, which would produce a higher figure (RPI includes mortgage interest etc) Image
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Jan 7
1/ *Deeply* worrying from @RishiSunak @10DowningStreet on @bbclaurak

Watch the clip in full 👇and pick out the blatant untruths - its so unbelievable they went unchallenged Laura K?

Apparently "The government has now reached resolution with every other part of the NHS. ....
2/ "Nurses, midwives, paramedics, consultant doctors, specialty doctors most recently. "
"So EVERY other part of the NHS workforce, and I'm grateful to them for everything they're doing, has reached a resolution with the government on a reasonable, fair pay settlement. "
3/ According to our PM

"The only people that haven't are the junior doctors."

How can this go unchallanged?

To be clear @BMA_Consultants (nor @BMA_SAS) have *NOT* "reached a resolution with government on a "reasonable, fair pay settlement"

This is simply NOT true
Read 15 tweets
Jan 5
1/ NEW & IMPORTANT: So we need to talk about NHS pay. NEW shocking [post DDRB] data just in 4/1/24 👇 (SPOILER: Not "fair & reasonable")

We need to fix pay/retention to fix waiting lists- increasingly clear next GE will won/lost on NHS

Please read whole 🧵 & share widely/RT

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2/ You'll notice when ministers are in the media, they often talk about how hard "your viewers/listeners" have been hit by inflation. But what we need to do is separate fact from fiction (aka LIES), and it was 👇chart from excellent @jburnmurdoch @FT that really showed this well Image
@jburnmurdoch @FT 3/ But its not just government ministers gaslighting NHS workers that they have no right for their pay to keep up (like everyone else's), its also the so-called "independent" DDRB👇

Apparently doctors & dentists should not be protected when "its not taking place in other groups" Image
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