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Dec 11, 2022 25 tweets 12 min read Read on X
1/ This is a *really* important thread🧵 re current pensions consultation. I need you to take time to read it properly & watch the 2 videos / modelling done with @gdcuk

They are trying to steal your pension, whilst pretending they are fixing a problem. Read, 👀 2 videos & RT Image
2/ Ive been tweeting for some some time now about the *huge* problems created for NHS pension by high inflation & the interaction with something called #CPIdisconnect & #FixNegativePIAs

3/ Ive always been clear that we need to #FixTheFinanceAct specifically in relation to CPI disconnect (Section 235)

4/ and also crucially to negative pension growth caused in S234.

To not fix this is tantamount to "pension theft"

5/ Earlier in the week, Government announced to great fanfare that they had fixed the issues so "clinicians don't feel like they need to take earlier retirement or reduce hours"

6/ SPOILER ALERT: They havent fixed this at all, especially in some groups (just read the comments now including around 200 GPs & consultants)

7/ Ive recorded a short video talking about the issues of CPI disconnect and introducing the complex concept of negative pension growth



*PLEASE* take the 20mins time to watch it (best view HD on a computer)
8/ In that video I talk at length about this slide about the interaction between 4 factors each year:
- September CPI
- "Opening value"
- Pay awards
- "Revaluation"

Government have proposed at best a partial fix to inflation related problems Image
9/ Next we look at an article from @thetimes in which Secretary of State @SteveBarclay discusses the consultation announced later that day Image
10/ In that article Mr. Barclay gives a (somewhat exaggerated) example which could imply doctors can earn pensionable income of £174k (not many doctors around earning that) with virtually no AA charges thanks to the "fix" Image
11/ But in the next video, pensions expert @gdcuk reverse engineers that case to show that not all is quite as it seems with what Mr. Barclay implies



Again take time to watch this video in detail (ideally in HD on a computer)
12/ The tax charge is not £ 628 as Mr. Barclay implies, but rather £ 5,811 - but in any event its a highly unusual tax year (22/23) as its the only tax year ever (or future) where there is no "revaluation/dynamization" as they have been moved back 6 days to next tax year
13/ But more importantly the selective case studies masks the ENORMOUS pension theft which happens in future years with MASSIVE negative pension loss (£100k in 23/24 and 85k in 24/25). Image
14/ This changes the 4 year pension liability from £39,971 to *ZERO* - as in NADA / NOTHING / ZILCH if negative pension growth is calculated, not ignoring negative growth - i.e. measuring *REAL* growth above inflation. Image
15/ Next we look at the effect of doing some "extra work" to help with the 7.2m waiting list - doing 12 PAs, and only 1 8 hour list per month at @TheBMA rates pushes that pension tax charge to 76k - higher by 36k for *ABSOLUTELY NO PENSION BENEFIT*. Just scandalous Image
16/ Unsurprisingly a higher earning member like Mr. Barclay cases study might be advised to drop the waiting list work, and indeed go from 12 PAs to less - and thats no suprise as it might make complete financial sense to do so to not #PayingToWork Image
17/ In the video next @gcduk and I look at a much more realistic case (remembering this was Mr. Barclays case, not mine or @TheBMA at look at a more realistic mid career consultant example

18/ We also look forward 10 years in this case and just look at the difference looking at negative PIAs (with carry forward) can make Image
19/ Over 10 years the pension tax charge is £68,498 - but counting negative pension growth i.e. *ACTUALLY* measuring *REAL* growth above inflation that falls to £19,763 - some £48,735 lower ImageImage
20/ Just process that for a minute - they ignore the *MASSIVE* pension loss caused by subinflationary pay in tax years 23/24 and 24/25 (yellow) & instead of processing this fairly to measure real growth above inflation (green) they "zero" this off (red) and ignore it Image
21/ The net result is that you *MASSIVELY* overpay tax. And as its highly likely you cant afford to pay these AA charges from net income / savings, you are then forced to use expensive scheme pays loans based on inflation + 2.4% - despite your 1995 pension deflating, *massively*
22/ If you are not angry by this pension theft, which is what this is tantamount to, you may not have understood the problem as its complicated. If so *please* take the time to learn about this, and watch all the videos above, in detail.
23/ If you think this is me or the @BMA_Pensions moaning about something pretty niche, you are wrong. We are not the only ones jumping up and down about this, see what @Policy_Exchange @NHSEmployers @AISMANewsline have also called for in recent months, as well as Dr. Dan Poulter Image
24/ Government cannot on one hand claim in the consultation that the intention of government is to "only measure growth above inflation".

They are doing nothing of the sort, and in the process they are massively & unfairly decreasing your pension Image
25/ Our new chancellor @Jeremy_Hunt knows this is a problem

#FixTheFinanceAct #FixNegativePIAs #TaxUnregistered

Its time to fix this properly, before its too late

RT if you are fed up with them robbing your pension & destroying the NHS

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More from @goldstone_tony

Jan 23
1/ NEW & V IMPORTANT update from @nhs_pensions on pension savings statements for 23/24
•@nhs_pensions have self reported to the regulator
•what do YOU need to do for Self Assessment (31/1)
•What compensation might be due
•Next steps

Summary 🧵please read & share/RT Image
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2/ So firstly after @BMA_Pensions wrote to the NHSBSA CEO this is the first time they have openly confirmed in this letter that thay have reported this issue to The Pensions Regulator (our complaint in the quoted tweet below) 👇

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3/ So importantly WHEN are YOU expected to get your 23/24 PSS which you need for your self assessment 31st Jan 2025 (8 days away)

Well they expect to START issuing them by February 27th 2025

@nhs_pensions have asked @BMA_Pensions to be involved in assurance after the errorsImage
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Dec 26, 2024
1/ V. Important 🧵 if you are CONSULANT in England. This week I used my FREE modeller to identify & correct an error in #AnnualAllowance for 24/25 which I suspect may be a common error. It will save me over £2,600 from my AA liability, buckle up & see if you are affected
Ps RT Image
2/ As many of you will know Twitter/X is now really difficult to see the information you want to see from the people you follow so please help by RT, but also sending your colleagues on whatsap / FB groups if you think this will help them Image
3/ In preparation go onto ESR, download Mar '24, May '24 + Nov '24 payslips & 23/24 TRS (+/- 22/23 TRS) - and then I will talk you through IF you are also affected by this "misallocated arrears" error, tell you how to model the impact of this, and how to correct thisImage
Read 21 tweets
Dec 12, 2024
1/ THOUGHT FOR THE DAY: Whilst I'm grateful for the changes to LTA/AA, the AA and the dreaded #taper still remain. And here's your regular reminder why its PARTICULARLY unfair, and stupid, in the NHS (from @BMA_Pensions @TheBMA evidence to DDRB).

Short 🧵pls read & share Image
2/ We are all in CARE now, so should all be paying generally the same employEE contributions.

But we aren't - and its worst - by a garden mile - in the NHS per this chart showing the ratio of conts from the highest earners : lowest earners in the public sector 👇Image
3/ So unlike in the private sector where there is no difference in cost for higher vs lower owners other than tax relief, we go through this ridiculously unfair step in the NHS - far worse than anywhere in the public sector - that strips away our higher rate reliefImage
Read 5 tweets
Dec 10, 2024
1/ very important and NEW: @nhs_pensions have overnight issues guidance on 23/24 tax year where they have failed to send you a pensions savings statement on time (which was their legal duty)

nhsbsa.nhs.uk/public-service…Image
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2/ the bottom line is they expect you ESTIMATE your carry forward and PIA and any charge in the normal timescale ie by Jan 31st 2025 …. Which is going to be extremely difficult ….. Image
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3/ after you estimate you will have until Jan 26 to correct your estimation based on the real figures Image
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Read 13 tweets
Oct 30, 2024
1/ Well after intense media speculation re: budget (speculation incl. reduction of tax free lump sum to £100k; flat rate relief at 30 or 20%; lifetime allowance re-introduction & pension "flexibility" [i.e. balance between pay & pension] .. speculation can now END....
Pls RT 🧵 Image
2/ Its now time for @RachelReevesMP to deliver her first budget ... I'll be live tweeting anything significant with a focus on #pensions and #pensiontax (if there is indeed anything!)

So keep following! Appologies for any typos/errors read to end for any corrections & docs Image
3/ So following #PMQs there is a statement that the contents of some of the budget has been made public before the budget and expresses dissapointment that this has happened Image
Read 27 tweets
Oct 17, 2024
1/ Longtime followers may remember this update from 4.5 years ago. Id met the then head of @nhs_pensions and the senior leadership team. They made lots of promises to improve things around Annual Allowance that BADLY needed improvement....

Pls read, share and RT
2/ Chief among those promises was to have an end to waiting till October for a PSS. Indeed no more brown envelopes. 85% of people would get their "digital brown envelope" by June (starting in 2020) 👇

3/ And furthermore for those that dont get automatic PSS (then around 85%), 15% would be able to see in this portal, from June 2020 why they DONT have a PSS i.e. you need manual calculations, or they cant issue one as they are awaiting info from employer

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