By these standards set by some virologists, there seems to be no strong evidence of a natural #OriginOfCovid and likely no way to ever prove that the virus came to people through the wildlife trade instead of research activities.
If you turn it around, then even if wild animals infected with the direct ancestor or close siblings of the pandemic virus were found, that would only strengthen but not prove a natural #OriginOfCovid since the Wuhan outbreak could still have been sparked by research activity.
I'm not sure what these virologists believe can be found. A video recording of scientists in Wuhan spilling a tube labeled pandemic virus, said researchers developing symptoms & the chain of transmissions leading to a superspreader event at the market - all caught on camera?
Or a video recording of bats infecting animals that are later trafficked into Wuhan, those animals then infecting vendors who then infect others at the market - all caught on camera?
In this case, no pandemic has ever been proven to have a natural origin.
One's bias is clear if they are starting from a point where a natural #OriginOfCovid is assumed despite the striking lack of evidence (eg infected animals) but a lab origin cannot be proven even with evidence at the level of "the virus was studied in a lab before the outbreak".
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New editorial from the virologists who brought us "even if the pandemic virus was being studied in a lab prior to the 2019 outbreak, it would not prove that the virus came from a lab".
"The bulk of this attack comes under the guise of concern about gain-of-function (GOF) research and persistent concerns about the origin of SARS-CoV-2."
Is there a science journalism class where they teach reporters what to say about the scientific consensus when there is no data on what most scientists think about a hotly debated and still unfolding issue like #OriginOfCovid?
From what I can tell, when a reporter says "most scientists" or the "scientific consensus" they often seem to mean "my go-to scientist and their friends".
Under these circumstances, some scientists might be misled by their journalist friends into believing that they are the Science.
Conflicts of interest work the same way in science as they do in journalism, politics, law etc.
If you are "debunking" a lab leak #OriginOfCovid, best to declare the COI that you worked with the scientists suspected of starting the pandemic.
There was literally a situation where collaborators of the Wuhan Institute of Virology realized putting their name on @TheLancet letter condemning lab #OriginOfCovid would be seen as self-serving and linked back to their collaboration.
@TheLancet It is surprising to me that the co-authors of the @ScienceMagazine market #OriginOfCovid papers failed to see what even Peter Daszak of the EcoHealth Alliance could see in early 2020 - that a collaboration with the Wuhan Institute of Virology was a COI.
I am going to respond to Dr Rasmussen's questions as honestly as I can here.
But first I thank the wise people in my life who reached out to me, reminded me of the ultimate goal of finding the #OriginOfCovid and advised me to take the high road.
I waded into #OriginOfCovid without knowing the kind of mess I would get in for writing a single line in a preprint that the virus might have come from nature or it might have come from a lab.
A year later, I wrote VIRAL: The Search for the Origin of Covid-19 with @mattwridley
Half of the money I've made from the book has been donated to charity (non-political). I have not accepted $ for doing #OriginOfCovid research despite several offers. Thankfully the publication and open access fees were waived for my peer reviewed paper. academic.oup.com/mbe/article/39…