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Jan 12 14 tweets 4 min read
Personal observations on day 8&9 (Jan 10-11, 2023) of Amy Hamm’s (@preta_6) @BCnursemidwife disciplinary hearing. 🧵…

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Day 8 wrapped up the testimony of Dr. Greta Bauer.

Dr Bauer continues to present as smug and condescending at times. This is only surpassed by the behaviour of BARBARA FINDLAY on cross examination.

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When asked simple, straightforward questions by @LDBildy that challenge her ideology, Dr. Bauer often dodges by making pedantic points about how the ethics of research are performed and how she as an epidemiologist does things.

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This allows her to maintain her air of expertise by pretending like questions worded in lay language are somehow hard for her to answer without having to trouble herself by explaining all the nuances of her very complicated field.

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This may actually be true, but seems like a tactic she employs selectively. It comes across as manipulative and dodgy.

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The end of Dr. Bauer’s testimony marked the tentative rest of the case for the College made by their lawyers. Finally it was time for the witnesses on Amy’s side to be heard.

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It’s important to point out that the college had already tried to discredit and disqualify ALL of Amy’s expert witnesses by asking Dr. Bauer to weigh in on their qualifications and expertise. The college put forth a motion to dismiss these witnesses and lost, thankfully.

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The next day and a half were spent mostly consisting of BF cross examining Dr. Mirriam Grosman about her CV and trying to prove how she might be unqualified to give testimony. Odd considering she’s the only witness on both sides who actually treats youth with gender dysphoria

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Dr Grossman, so far, has been quite impressive. She has maintainer calm, cool and collected, while BF tries her best to talk as slowly as possible and ask the most ludicrously open ended questions I’ve ever heard.

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It seems as though the goal of BF and her fellow legal team is to somehow drag this process out as long as possible to somehow “run out the clock” but I’m not even sure how that might work given apparently there are already requests to further extend the trial beyond 18 days

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BF tried to get Dr. Grossman to admit she had been using “conversion therapy” on her patients, but Grossman wasn’t falling for the trap. She clearly stated that her patients are free to identify however they want and that she doesn’t push her ideas on them.

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This did seem to frustrate BF a fair bit, which I’ll admit was satisfying to watch, as BF spends most of her time doing her damndest to make everyone else exceedingly uncomfortable.

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Today ended with no verdict on whether the Panel would accept Dr Grossman as qualified to give testimony as an expert witness. She is not available the rest of this week so up next will hopefully be Dr. Kathleen Stock tomorrow!

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Jan 13
Amy Hamm Disciplinary Hearing Day 10 Update:

The one where BARBARA FINDLAY becomes unhinged, followed by FALLING ASLEEP!

If you want unbiased reporting, sorry, today's events preclude me from that...

🧵

#istandwithamyhamm @preta_6 @eva_kurilova @ABRadFems @inferavirino

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Today, both sides gave closing arguments on the eligibility of Dr. Marianne Grossman as an expert witness for Amy's defence. Amy's lawyer, Karen Bastow gave her arguments, largely reiterating the written submissions previously submitted to the panel taking just under 40min

2/
Next, the lawyer for @BCnursemidwife, BARBARA FINDLAY, began her arguments. I'll quote her directly as much as was possible contemporaneously. The crux of her argument was that Dr. Grossman was not Canadian an thus her expertise was ineligible.

3/
Read 30 tweets
Jan 10
What @growingtotruth says at the 15min mark of this @podTransparency episode is important to anyone wanting to understand the denial of biological reality so many are engaged in. 🧵… 1/

podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/tra…
Especially as the 9th day of @preta_6 hearing is about to begin mere hours from now, I have been trying to come to terms with how entire professional regulators like @BCCNM and @CPOntario have become so ideologically captured that they will hold disciplinary hearings 2/
Based on complaints (sometime anonymous) from members of the public against members in good standing. 3/
Read 9 tweets
Oct 25, 2022
Today, as an observer for the disciplinary hearing of @preta_6, I witnessed what I think was one of the most despicable, unethical displays of quackery I've ever seen. A 🧵...

1/
BARBARA FINDLAY, a lawyer for BCCNM, spent the better part of the day attempting to discredit the statements of the expert witnesses that Amy's lawyers plan to call. She asked her last "expert" witness, Dr. Greta Bauer, to opine on the credentials of other witnesses.

2/
This began, by repeatedly referring to Dr. Linda Blade as "Ms. Blade," ignoring the fact that Linda is not only married, but also holds a PhD in Kinesiology from SFU. A fact that ought to have been rather obvious given the context of attempting to discredit her CV.

3/
Read 26 tweets
Sep 23, 2022
After two days of hearings for @preta_6, there’s a nagging thought that I can’t shake after watching yesterday’s cross examination of the head of the UBC nursing program by Amy’s very diligent lawyer, Karen Bastow:

1/x
Amy graduated from the UBC nursing program, with honours, roughly a decade ago and has maintained continuing education since then. She is facing two allegations from the public, one of which is still anonymous regarding her public comments on social media.

2/x
Many of the comments in question are based in the factual information professed to her by UBC. These facts are rooted in hundreds of years of scientific consensus about the biological reality of the human species.

3/x
Read 12 tweets
Sep 20, 2022
Tomorrow, the disciplinary hearing for BC nurse Amy Hamm @preta_6 will begin.

She is being forced to undergo a 7 day hearing, for complaints about her advocacy of women’s rights on her personal time. She is not accused of any professional misconduct while performing her duties.
The hearing is being conducted by the provincial regulator for nursing and midwifery.

I have registered to observe the hearing, and will be watching in support of Amy, who, I believe is being bullied and threatened with potential loss of her nursing license for stating truth.
This is what has become of Canada.

I still hold out hope that the regulator, when forced to face facts and evidence in a hearing, might realize its mistake and do the right thing.

As unlikely as that might be, my secondary hope is that this will bring public scrutiny.
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