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Jan 16, 2023 11 tweets 3 min read Read on X
Meredith G. Kline and the Trinity, Christology, and Pneumatology: A Thread

(h/t to my @OFADpodcast co-host Caleb Castro for sourcing this, though he is not on Twitter and won't see this, probably) 1/10
In 2006, Meredith Kline published God, Heaven, and Har Magedon, his last book before his death about a year later. GHHM has already appeared in this series as it was where Kline most clearly articulated his doctrine of the Sabbath, against the Westminster Standards. 2/10
In chapter 2 of GHHM, Kline posits his doctrine of Endoxation, wherein the Holy Spirit is said to undergo a permanent change in taking on a created form, something akin to the Son's incarnation. (quotes from pp. 13-17) 3/10 Image
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This also, by the way, is a particular example of how Kline's writing style is just...unusual. If you're having trouble reading those quotes and tracking with what is being said, you would not be the first. Yet it is in what is clearly stated that trouble can be found 4/10
The best that could be said about this idea of Endoxation is that it is novel and speculative. I cannot find another theologian who uses it. But the real trouble is where this seems to lead Kline next. 5/10
Kline argued on pages 15 and 16 of GHHM that this Endoxation of the Spirit is prior to the Incarnation of the Son, and that "It is a desideratum," (i.e. it is needed or wanted) that the creeds and confessions should be amended to say... 6/10
...that the Son is not merely eternally begotten of the Father, but also *eternally* begotten (filiated) of the Holy Spirit--in some instances reversing the order of the Persons. 7/10 Image
It seems that Kline is trying to push the economical relations between the Persons observed in the Incarnation (the conception of Christ by the power of the Holy Ghost, the Spirit resting on/empowering/anointing Christ, and the Transfiguration) back into eternity. 8/10 Image
In my mind, this sounds similar methodologically to the error of EFS/ESS/ERAS, in which the Son's submission to the Father in the Incarnation (economic submission) is read back into eternity and into the ontology (being) of God. 9/10
Now remember, Kline's trade was as an Old Testament scholar and biblical theologian. This is what he is remembered and praised for. Yet here he is very clearly wading deep into the waters of systematic/dogmatic theology and proposing revisions to the ecumenical faith. 10/10
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It is here that some of my former fellow Escondidans might jump in and say "But it's a Venn diagram! They overlap! VanDrunen's book even has it on the cover!" But while that overlap is claimed, the political is thought about/talked about in an almost exclusively negative way. 1/
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You will see a lot of Meredith Kline sympathizers mine quotes from historic Reformed sources about things like the Covenant of Works. Going back to the sources is certainly good, but if we're going to do that, we need to go all the way back.
You certainly can find forms of republication in the tradition. However, it's not enough to say, "republication exists therefore Kline vindicated." One must look deeper, not only into the context of quotes but into doctrines that are prior to particular covenantal formulations.
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So it seems Peter Bell is gearing up to release something Wednesday to prove he didn't misrepresent his licensure to churches. I don't see what exactly this accomplishes.
1. The major misrepresentation was not that Bell was a licentiate, but that he was a pastor. This misrepresentation was published for over a year by GGG. We determined in our investigation that Bell no longer had valid licensure, but that was secondary.
2. We never alleged that Bell was misrepresenting his licensure to churches. We noted a couple of details in our ecclesiastical letter like the incomplete MIF and some believing he was licensed in the RPCNA simply to outline the trail we followed and difficulty we had.
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We confirmed with the Presbytery of Southern California (OPC) that Bell was not licensed to preach or approved as a stated supply. One minister said they had plans to ask the PSC to take Bell under care (a step before licensure) but to our knowledge this never occurred. Image
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I also corresponded with bodies in the PCA and RPCNA, as Bell served as supply in the RPCNA for a time and my contacts in the RPCNA told me he left the RPCNA to pursue opportunities in the PCA. Still no licensure any of those places. I have all of this documentation.
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Sons of Charlatantry: On Peter Bell, host of the upcoming “Sons of Patriarchy”

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Data is from here. 0/pandemicoversight.gov/ppp-simple-sea…
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