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Jan 17 26 tweets 14 min read
Since September 2021, I've been busy photographing, transcribing, and documenting the gravestones at my local churchyard, St Nicholas, Sutton Parish, Surrey (now Greater London). 👉 Here's a thread about 15 months spent in a #graveyard. [1/25] #AncestryHour A self-photographed picture of David Dobie (@DavidDobie2) we
This entire project started as an excuse to get outside and get some exercise. “Why not photograph a few gravestones and add them to @FindaGrave?” I said... [2/25] #AncestryHour Screenshot from the Find a Grave website, showing a photogra
Yeah, right. Like an enthusiastic #genealogist is just going to take a few gravestone photos. Absolutely NO chance that it might lead to a compulsion to photograph EVERY. SINGLE. GRAVESTONE. I mean, AS. IF. [3/25] #AncestryHour Photograph showing old gravestones under a covering of matur
As it happens, photographing and researching an entire churchyard has been very therapeutic. It’s time-consuming, sure, but also makes a fascinating project. [4/25] #AncestryHour
St Nicholas Parish Churchyard was in use for centuries. Burial registers show a gradual increase in interments during the 18th century, a busy period from the late 1850s (as Sutton’s population increased), and a rapid tail-off starting in 1883. [5/25] #AncestryHour A graph showing the annual average burials by decade at St N
I estimate that there are just over 360 extant gravestones in the churchyard, and the majority of them are legible. I’ve photographed all of them, and 64% have been placed on-line so far. [6/25] #AncestryHour
Of course, local heritage does not last for ever. The fragile gravestone of Amelia and William Young was found lying broken, face-down, around 7 months after I’d photographed it. findagrave.com/memorial/23492… [7/25] #AncestryHour
You can find all the gravestones I’ve photographed, edited, and transcribed so far on the @FindaGrave website at findagrave.com/cemetery/23320… [8/25] #AncestryHour
I’m also creating or amending a @FamilySearch profile for each of the deceased people inscribed on each gravestone at St Nicholas Churchyard, adding photographs and detailed transcriptions as “Sources” and “Memories”. [9/25] #AncestryHour
My logic is that adding gravestone photographs to both @FindaGrave and @FamilySearch means that interested researchers stand a reasonable chance of finding them, and the images have a good chance of surviving on-line long after I’m gone. [10/25] #AncestryHour
I’m also making arrangements that all of my digital photos, including the 100s of images which aren’t available on-line, will be transferred to @SuttonArchives (libraries.sutton.gov.uk/digital-conten…). [11/25] #AncestryHour
In fact, now would be a good time to do a shout-out to my new friends at @SuttonArchives (part of @SuttonCouncil), and to helpful #archivists everywhere, who help researchers access their collections. [12/25] #AncestryHour
The earliest death inscribed on a legible monument at St Nicholas Parish Churchyard seems to be that of the Rev George Roberts (?1635–1685), previously located inside the earlier church built of this site. findagrave.com/memorial/24245… [13/25] #AncestryHour Photograph of the rectangular burial stone, now set in the g
I have had some real luck with this gravestone transcription project: The Sutton Parish registers, including burials between 1636 to 1954, have survived. They are preserved at @SuttonArchives. [14/25] #AncestryHour Photograph of an archival note attached to the end of the co
Images of the burial records are also available online @Ancestry in “All Sutton, Surrey, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538–1812” & “All Sutton, Surrey, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813–1985”. [15/25] #AncestryHour
Cross-referencing a gravestone inscription with the burial register often helps decipher names and dates which are unclear on the extant monument. [16/25] #AncestryHour
I’m not the first person to have transcribed gravestones at St Nicholas Churchyard. Between 1971 and 1972, a local parishioner, Norman Crabtree, documented all the extant stones he could read. [17/25] #AncestryHour Photograph of the opening paragraphs of Norman Crabtree’s
Mr Crabtree lodged copies of his manuscript with: @SocGenealogists (item no 43571, call no SR/M 25); @SuttonCouncil (copy in the Archive & Local Studies Search Room); and the Rector of St Nicholas Parish Church (stnicholas.suttonteam.org.uk). [18/25] #AncestryHour
I’m deeply grateful that Mr Crabtree did his work so thoroughly: He organised his transcriptions in a logical order, and I could follow his route around the churchyard, helping me to identify gravestones which are now completely illegible. [19/25] #AncestryHour
If anyone happens to know any of Mr Crabtree’s descendants, please let me know, I’d like to tell them how useful his work has been. [20/25] #AncestryHour
I’m also extremely grateful that the Church Administrator at St Nicholas kindly supplied me with a copy of Crabtree’s manuscript for private use. 👍👍👍 It’s been a very useful double-check for my own transcriptions. [21/25] #AncestryHour
One of the hardest parts of this project has been producing a map of the gravestone locations — Tackling this solo was a deranged idea, but I did it! Mapping might be better tackled by a group of volunteers, or by a professional. [22/25] #AncestryHour Part of a diagram showing the location of gravestones at St
The map was initially produced on squared paper and then reworked in Adobe Illustrator. A lot of the editing and repositioning of the grave markers was done in the field on an iPad with Apple Pencil. It took HOURS! [23/25] #AncestryHour
There’s a load more stuff I could tell you about this project. It’s been really enjoyable to do, but there’s still plenty of work to get the remaining monuments edited and published on-line. [24/25] #AncestryHour
So now, my friends, you know what I’ve been up to during the last 10 months' of radio silence. I hope to be back more regularly on social media from now on. 👍 [25/25] #AncestryHour
Good grief! Note to self: That green background is truly HORRIBLE. Never, ever, use that colour again!

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Sep 29, 2020
I often talk about using the #WikiTree website to record my #FamilyHistory research. Here’s a thread for #AncestryHour with some reasons why I ❤️ @WikiTreers. [1/17] Image
I’ve spent hours researching my #FamilyHistory, but don’t have anyone to leave it too. #WikiTree provides a place to record information for others to read and critique (now and in the future). #AncestryHour [2/17]
I won’t be around for ever, so I need somewhere that my #FamilyHistory research will survive long after I’ve gone. #WikiTree provides that. It’s free, so no need to worry about subscription fees when I’m not around to pay them. #AncestryHour [3/17]
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I often talk about using the #WikiTree website to record my #FamilyHistory research. Here’s a thread for #AncestryHour with some reasons why I ❤️ @WikiTreers. [1/17]
I’ve spent hours researching my #FamilyHistory, but don’t have anyone to leave it too. #WikiTree provides a place to record information for others to read and critique (now and in the future). #AncestryHour [2/17]
I won’t be around for ever, so I need somewhere that my #FamilyHistory research will survive long after I’ve gone. #WikiTree provides that. It’s free, so no need to worry about subscription fees when I’m not around to pay them. #AncestryHour [3/17]
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Aug 20, 2020
Reply from a @FindaGrave volunteer: “Not accurate - Their data conflicts with my data". OK, so the two contemporary newspaper reports about the deceased‘s fatal road accident giving the correct year of death that I sent ya not good enough, huh? findagrave.com/memorial/21448… Image
In the interests of providing visitors to his @FindaGrave page with the *correct* information about John Smith Shireffs (1900-1955), I've added a picture of the press cuttings with dates, which just happen to match his entry in the statutory Register of Deaths. Images: @BNArchive Image
There is a John Ellis F Sherriffs, who died in Forfar in 1949, but John Smith Shirreffs who died in the road accident at Stirling and was buried at the Campsie-Lennoxtown Cemetery died in 1955.
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Aug 3, 2020
Yesterday I posted official extracts of my birth and adoption records to @HighlandCouncil with the hope that the burial lairs of my birth mother, grandparents and great grandparents in #Gairloch’s New Cemetery can be assigned to me, the only living descendant. [1/3] Image
The graves concerned are the middle and right-hand ones in the photo above. I want to have the graves cleaned & the lettering re-done. When the time comes, I may join them there, as there is still space. [2/3]
More people to whom I am related are buried in this cemetery than anywhere else on earth, with more distant ancestors and relatives buried in the adjacent Old Burial Ground. [3/3] Image
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Feb 22, 2020
Researching a C19th branch of my direct line from New Pitsligo in Aberdeenshire, who seem to have been extremely poor souls. Quite a few premature deaths from communicable diseases (mostly TB + 1xtyphoid). Very different to most of my middling (and usually long-living) relatives.
None of my ancestors made it above the level of tenant farmer, apart from the ones who owned a small cargo ship, but is a rather sad to think about the hard-up lot in New Pitsligo. Impression is they seem to have been close, and looked after each other with what little they had.
Oh dear. Looking across the 1861, ‘71 & ‘81 censuses, one of my 3x gt aunts in New Pitsligo may have had 7 illegitimate children (all with different surnames) before she married a man 13 years her junior. That’s going to take some working out...
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Jan 30, 2020
Goodness, this is exciting! I know I have a 4th gt grandmother called Christian (Christina) Taylor née Mowat, but until now, that’s all I had. Think I’ve just found her. Now examining parish registers, valuation rolls & census records to see if the records show it’s really her.
So, *if* I have found Christian, my 4th gt grandmother, she lived a long life as a widow, knitting stockings for a living until goimg blind. I’d also know who my 5th gt grandparents are on that line. The *circumstantial* evidence is good, but not enough to be confident, yet.
More circumstantial evidence that Christian Mowat (c.1778-1865) is my 4x gr grandmother. Have now found a promising older sibling of my 3x gt grandmother, born in the same parish. An older sister to them both is a bit erratic over her age and place of birth on census.
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