Just read documents from both Zrcalo's side of the recent drama, and Dan's side, and it has only cemented the fact in my mind that I don't take either side.
Both Google Docs are pretty damning (one is much better organized tho), but neither side is likeable or good, AFAIK.
Here's doc #1, on Dan's side, posted by one of the accounts recently lying about me.
While I oppose that, and what was said to and about myself and others, this is definitely not good, and if I was on Zrcalo's side (I'm not), I wouldn't be anymore.
Here's the other, and it's uh... a lot. I don't believe in the concept of wrongs balancing each other out, but there's a lot in here that paints a pretty bad picture of the other side.
And before anyone asks, I had exactly zero part in making either one.
People from both sides are going to be angry with me for sharing the other one, but the truth is that that's what sunlight is, and it's the only disinfectant this whole mess needs.
Anything less is just designed to allow corruption to fester. Unacceptable to all good people.
That, by the way, is why I oppose all these private accounts, and accounts blocking people who they then target in various ways.
If you need privacy for your security, don't use that privacy to threaten other people's, by saying things about them with no accountability. Ya dig?
So this is getting private quote tweeted, probably by Dan herself. Guess this is my chance to say: you lied about me Dan, and you lied about me being a groomer because I called you out for lying about a minor, which made him suicidal. But you don't mind that. You tell people to.
I see the private reply here. But I don't see what it says. That's because these people are cowards, who hide behind padlocks, blocks, and any other feature that would allow people to say their peace. The truth is anathema to y'all. So is being decent people. That's the truth.
If people wanna say I'm some terrible mean person for including both of these documents, then here's your gauntlet. She needs to stop lying about people, and she needs to stop telling people to kill themselves, and then we can talk about civility politics.
Craven cloutfarmers.
And come out from behind your padlocked account, and face me. The truth does not need to hide, and it can happen right here, right now, right out in the open. Do it. Stop hiding from accountability and responses. Step out of your echo chamber for a moment, and touch fucking grass
So @spacexmckitty - I've seen you engaging with this subject, but not with me. I agree with the #OpStopSuicide idea - Dan does not. That's why Dan consistently tells people to do it. Any comment on that, or are you just going to unilaterally oppose me? I'll wait for an answer.
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An absolute ton of people have demanded to know why I talk so much about this "drama".
In case it wasn't obvious, I'll lay it out. It sums up with I care about CSA victims, and want to prevent more of them from being created.
So communities against it HAVE TO TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
This means ousting or correcting elements in the community which want to leverage it for their own personal garbage, and use it as a space for other kinds of abuse, shielding themselves from criticism by hiding behind what they claim to "do" for children. Simple as that.
It means being honest, open to criticism, reasonable, transparent, investigatorily sound, and most importantly, not creating more victims of any other sort, or enabling those who would do so.
Instead, we have a bunch of people who call reasonable concerns "drama". It ain't cute.
Something rubs me the wrong way about my age consistently being held against me, as though being 30 is somehow a marker that I'm wrong about what I say.
Something also rubs me the wrong way about people who know nothing about me spreading what others say.
I wanted an account mass reported and suspended for spamming an image at people. I was under the impression that hiding the reply in my tweets, and muting the account, would hide the tweet in my quote tweet.
The image was apparently considered art at one point, but widely criticized because it involved the artist's new children. It's still sold by art sellers today, but I objected to the content and vehemently opposed it when people asked what the context was. He's suspended now.
Then I had @MotherofXaos on, his wife, to discuss her end of things. We talked canning, pickling, tinctures, and other ways to build an efficient prepping pantry, and get the entire family involved in the process.
So let me get this straight. My evidence is good enough to post, when it (rightly) opposes Zrcalo...
... But if I have screenshots about Dan, suddenly that's not good enough? Because you still block me, and wouldn't share my thread, you got these from.
You waited three days after I posted this evidence, even leaving my usernames in your screenshot, but you still haven't publicly admitted that I'm not as evil as you said I was.
This is the anatomy of a grift. You'll use other people's work against them.
The people in these screenshots know me better than you.
@TheEgoAndItsPwn, @kaiotika, @TENerdAnarchist, and so many others, were right there when I was opposing this guy, and they were also there when Dan lied about me, but I guess evidence THERE is bad?
Some folks in a GM on Facebook agreed with each other that Biden is more libertarian than Trump. Here's my responses so far.
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LOL tell that to BLM. By all metrics, Biden has been more hawkish, a bigger friend to the cops, and more deeply involved in the intelligence community.
He's lied about every libertarian thing he said he would do. Biden only appears more libertarian on the surface.
To me, they're both just a run-of-the-mill authoritarians for the authoritarian right.
They're both actual fascists. One just doesn't send out as many mean tweets.
To my knowledge, this is still here. I've repeatedly told this person that I'm willing to talk with her about the truth of the situation, and she seems to be ignoring myself and anyone on my side.
But it's not true. Dan lied about her age, not my fault.
Doesn't stop COH's followers from harassing me though. Body shaming, spreading the lies with no evidence and more.
These people are obsessed with ratios. The fact that Dan "ratioed" me based on lying about me being a pedophile is not a badge of honor among the honorable.
The fact that I don't like Dan does not mean I support Zrcalo.
The fact that I oppose a community (antis) which so easily spread lies about me, and uses their leverage to bully anyone they don't like, facts not required, doesn't mean I support the others.