OK, now onto recurrence rate (which is what the video is about but I wanted to cover general risk first as it is important to discuss both). Let's check out the evidence. We'll start with Protani et al 2010
Whilst this study DID show a significant difference in both overall AND disease specific survival rates the study itself concluded "no study has elucidated the causal mechanism and there is currently no evidence that weight loss after diagnosis improves survival".
It goes on to say "Consequently, there is currently no reason to place the additional burden of weight loss on women already burdened with a diagnosis of cancer." link.springer.com/article/10.100…
Niraula et al showed that there is no evidence that the association of ob*sity with breast cancer outcome differs by hormone receptor or menopausal status. Just to clear up the myth that this is estrogen related. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22562122/
Then there's the largest met analysis (Chan et al 2014). It showed a 41% increased risk from all cause mortality and 35% from breast cancer mortality in ppl with a high BMI before diagnosis. This drops to 23% and 25% respectively in ppl with a high BMI <12 months after surgery.
So if you're fat before your initial surgery you're more likely to die from a recurrence of cancer than if you become fat after surgery. This doesn't surprise me as fat ppl are under investigated, experience treatment delays, are stigmatised and have poorer healthcare access
Limitations of study 1. Heterogeneity of 30-60% in studies of ob*se ppl. 2. No information on how advanced cancer was at time of diagnosis in different groups and if this skewed data 3. No information on whether weight changes were intentional, iatrogenic or neither.
4.Did not conduct analyses by race/ethnicity and treatment types as only limited studies had published results yet we know that both will have massive impact on data. 5. Ppl with high BMI are often underdosed at chemo stage which may also explain results annalsofoncology.org/article/S0923-…
Finally, Goodwin et al 2012. Showed that distant disease free survival (DDFS) was 5% higher for BMI 26-28, 40% higher for BMI 28-55 and 14% higher for BMI 16-22 COMPARED to people with a BMI of 22-25. This was for UNIVARIABLE analysis. But watch... ascopubs.org/doi/10.1200/JC…
Multivariable: 6% higher for BMI 26-28, 15% higher for BMI 28-55 and 5% LOWER for BMI 16-22 COMPARED to people with a BMI of 22-25.
So that 40% statistic people love to quote is only using univariable analysis. Drops to 15% with multivariable but we always miss that bit out.
So here's my summary: 1. There is definitely a high risk of recurrence and mortality in higher weight ppl with breast cancer but WE DON'T KNOW WHY 2. There is no mechanism of action to explain this risk based on adiposity alone (can't blame estrogen because its ALL types)
3. This increased risk could well be due to doctor bias or delayed examinations/investigations, inequalities in healthcare and the constant stress of weight stigma. 4. There is no evidence that weight loss after treatment for breast cancer decreases risk/improves outcomes.
5. There is no information on whether weight loss after surgery INCREASES RISK/WORSENS OUTCOMES.
Since the diagnosis of breast cancer is such a highly emotive and stressful time for ppl, I believe it is NEGLIGENT to bring up weight loss when we have so little information
Because there's every chance by doing so we are: 1. Stigmatising patients further 2. Exacerbating the already high levels of anti-fat bias in medical professionals who work with cancer patients. 3. Causing unnecessary stress for ppl at a time when they are already burdened
Weight stigma in the doctors office looks like 1. Symptoms being ignored 2. Being told to lose weight to fix your symptoms 3. Being judged, humiliated, ans traumatised by HCPs. 4. Lack of equipment that fits 5. Unsolicited weight loss advice 6. A generally hostile environment
It also looks like: 1. Doctors assuming things about patients based on size 2. Drs refusing to examine or treat patients 3. Drs ignoring symptoms and blaming them on weight 4. Doctors celebrating unintentional weight loss 5. Delayed and missed diagnosis 6. Delayed treatment
It also looks like: 1. Fear of doctors and avoiding them where possible. 2. Ignoring your own symptoms because of previous weight stigma 3. Giving up on seeking medical advice because it is too steeped in weight normativity 4. Avoidance of cancer screening and other essentials
Timeline:
Some time ago: a well educated middle class woman posing as a "council estate mum" writes a charming series of books about a bunch of white kids at an elite boarding school for magical beings. People ignore the questionable content and she gets uber famous.
Much later: this now extremely wealthy, powerful, influential and privileged woman starts attacking trans women for no apparent reason, seemingly to stay relevant. Her attacks become more frequent and unhinged. She develops a cult like following.
Recently: said privileged woman uses her wealth and power and influence to buy publicity, media attention, and political influence to further her anti-trans agenda. Her cult becomes increasingly malicious and dangerous. The trans community claps back. Two can play at this game.
I feel like I want to just tag a whole bunch of them! Take this one...
"Professor John Wilding leads clinical research into Ob*sity, Diabetes and Endocrinology at the University of Liverpool, and leads specialist services for ob*sity at Aintree University Hospital.
- designated a Centre for Ob*sity Management by the European Association for the Study of Ob*sity (funded by @novonordisk)
He chairs the National Clinical Research Network Metabolic and Endocrine Speciality Group.
He is an advisor to NICE and NHS England on various aspects of ob*sity care. He is a past Chair of the UK Association for the Study of Ob*sity, and immediate past President of the World Ob*sity Federation."
Many of you have rightly pointed out that being fat worked in our favour when it came to getting the COVID vaccine. Aside from the fact that guidelines about needle size were routinely ignored, I couldn't agree more. BUT...
It also further patholgoised our fatness during the pandemic. We can all agree that fat ppl needed that vaccine to protect us from a healthcare system that was determined to blame, shame and harm us for a VIRUS. I'm glad we got it. BUT...
At the same time I hate how the media and medical profession used this as further proof that being fat increased your risk of dying and that fat ppl were once again a "burden" to the healthcare system. Because I am sick and tired of this lie and the harm it causes.
In 2020 we were all told that being fat was associated with a significantly higher risk of dying of COVID. That's what the researchers said, that's what the media reported and that's what the doctors were telling us. Just look around the ICUs, they said. Its obvious, they said.
Nobody thought to question the evidence. A hypothesis based on very little actual data (it was 2020, and we knew NOTHING at this stage) turned into a fact. And since that early media push, not a single person on earth has questioned that "fact". Until now.
Until "This umbrella review of systematic reviews with meta-analysis (SR-MAs) aimed to evaluate the risk of bias and the certainty of the evidence of SR-MAs on the association between obesity and mortality in patients with SARS-CoV-2." ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/P…
Let me make something ABUNDANTLY clear. The term "unwell" is used to attack trans people and fat people all the time. I chose my words VERY CAREFULLY. I did not use the term "mentally unwell". As you can tell from the comments on my posts I endure a LOT of hate.
The people who tweet hate messages at me are NOT mentally ill. They are just nasty, pathetic cruel human beings who live unfulfilled lives and get off on harming people. I've never ONCE met a mentally ill person whom I would describe that way. So don't put words in my mouth
And please, whatever you do, don't center your privileged white cisgender self when a marginalised person is under attack and trying to defend themselves. Allow me the dignity of taking one of their nastier and more hurtful comments and using it against them.