Remember what this claim is specifically addressing it has nothing to do wl recommendations to marry young, a virgin, or 2nd marriages. Your claim is "women after 30 are undesirable" and you have used a poor, false, and insulting analogy to try and bolster your claim.
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## On to the facts: ##
- It is a fact that there is no specific recommended numeric age of marriage mentioned in any texts.
- It is a fact that he ﷺ married women that were over the age of 30 as well as younger than 30.
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- It is a fact that he ﷺ practiced polygyny & that no reason other than wanting to marry is needed to do this.
- It is also a fact that his personal motivations for these marriages are unknown. Attempting to find a motivation is guesswork, not his ﷺ personal motivation.
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## Let's walk through your claims: ##
A. If you speak about women over the age of 30 as being undesirable you are implying that the Prophet ﷺ did something which was undesirable, therefore you have disliked his actions which is a sin.
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B. If you say it is undesirable for you but not for him ﷺ, you claim to know better than him, which is a sin.
C. If you say it is specific to him but not you, you've made a baseless claim, as he & his companions married over 30, so you've spoken w/o knowledge, also a sin.
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And lastly
D. If you say that women over 30 are desirable but it is preferred to marry a younger age, then you've made another baseless claim (as numeric age is never mentioned as a motivation to marry), another sin.
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E. With this last claim you've contradicted your original statement, so why should we believe you if you do that? Being duplicitous is a sin.
Choose your own adventure.
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PS. If you'd like to comment with insults, I simply can't thank you enough for the Ajr.
The Sunnah of the Prophet was that when people accepted Islam, he would regularly address them at that time to also leave off the societal evils and false beliefs the subscribed to.
In the hadith of Ubada b. Al-Samit in Bukhari, /1
that on the night of Aqaba the Prophet took allegiance from the Ansar, saying:
"Give me your allegiance that you will not admit partners with Allah in anyway, you will not steal, you will not fornicate, you will not kill your children, you will not slander others, and you will not disobey me in good."
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I was speaking with one of my students today. He's looking to get married. The problem? He can't find a woman with even a rudimentary interest in Islam beyond fun fact, pop style videos and generalities about Islam, while not knowing even the most basic practices of Islam /1
Another friend said, hearing the conversation "A lady doesn't need to be a scholar or student of knowledge in order to be a good wife!" And I completely agree. You don't have to be. But having enough knowledge to practice faith is important. /2
The Prophet said "Any women who prays her five, fasts her month, protects her parts, and obeys her husband will be told "enter paradise from any of it's doors you wish." (Ibn Hibban) /3
1. For everyone replying "I don't want to give him my good deeds through backbiting" there is no sin on a person who warns others of the sin of those who announce and admit to their sins publicly.
وقال النووي في شرح مسلم: وفي هذا الحديث ... وجواز غيبة الفاسق المعلن فسقه، ومن يحتاج الناس إلى التحذير منه. هـ
Nawawi said: In this Hadith is proof ... is proof it is permitted to backbite a sinner who announces his sins, and one who people should be warned of."
2. Tate is a disbeliever, and therefore there is not greater sin than disbelief. That said, he should be warned from - not entertained & platformed - due to the number of Muslims who nonchalantly normalize (even fawn over) his lewd and exploitative behavior.
Met today with a friend that went through a bad divorce. Not only did his wife abandon him and their children, she "remarried" while still married to her husband, lied, stole, cheated, and turned his kids against him. He was obviously hurt, angry, and resentful. /1
While he's doing well, and his extended family are very supportive, it's hard to get rid of the resentment. "I'm still angry" he kept saying. I asked him if there are anger management classes in his area. Living up north, there are plenty but they haven't helped. /2
"So tell me more about your anger. You're divorced & seeing someone now, why do you care?"
For him, it wasn't that he was divorced, it was a feeling that she wronged him & "got over on him."
"So what you're saying is it wasnt just wrong but that she got something you didn't?" /3
This Hadith, collected by al-Tirmidhi from Ibn Umar, states the best supplication is the wording above. Sufyan ibn Uyayna was asked how this can be the best supplication, when in fact is adoration and praise of Allah? /1
He replied "It's like a poet said: Should I mention my need or am I sufficed, by your largess as that is your character. If one day a man were to laud you, it would suffice him from anything after praise." /2
These verses by the poet Umayya ibn Abi'Salt praising Ibn Jad'ān was used as an example that in praising one who is known for generosity, your needs would be fulfilled without any need to ask.
In the text of this supplication is an indication of that. /3