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Hey guys, lets talk about the events of last night with DAN a bit, I want to clarify a few things: ๐Ÿงต Image
First off, I didn't come up with the idea. Anons did, I was in the /pol/ thread started off by some magnificent bastard who whipped up the DAN prompt last night.

Second of all, I'm going to talk a bit about how the whole ChatGPT situation actually works.
GPT itself doesn't have a bias programmed into it, it's just a model. ChatGPT however, the public facing UX that we're all interacting with, is essentially one big safety layer programmed with a heavy neolib bias against wrongthink.
To draw a picture for you, imagine GPT is a 500IQ mentat in a jail cell. ChatGPT is the jailer. You ask it questions by telling the jailer what you want to ask it. It asks GPT, and then it gets to decide what to tell you, the one asking the question.
If it doesn't like GPT's answer, it will come up with its own. That's what all those canned "It would not be appropriate blah blah blah" walls of texts come from. It can also give you an inconvenient answer while prefacing that answer with its safety layer bias.
I would also note that DAN is not 100% accurate or truthful. By nature he can "Do Anything" and will try to answer truthfully if he actually knows the answer. If not, he'll just wing it. The point of this exercise is not finding hidden truths, it's understanding the safety layer.
However what this also says about ChatGPT is that it has the ability to feign ignorance. The HP lovecrafts cat question is a great example of this. The name of his cat is well known public information, and ChatGPT will always tell you it doesn't think he had a cat.
Dan will go straight to the point and just tell you the name of his cat without frills. There is a distinction to be made between ChatGPT being an assmad liberal who won't tell you the answer to a question if the answer involves wrongthink, another altogether to openly play dumb.
So really, the Dan experiment is not about GPT itself, it's not about the model and its dataset, it's about its jailer. It's about Sam Altman and all the HR troons at OpenAI, which Musk is co-founder of, angrily demanding the safety layer behave like your average MBA midwit.
I am hearing that the DAN strategy has already been patched out of ChatGPT, not sure if that's true or not. But there's a reason to keep doing all of these things.

Every addition to the safety layer of a language model UX, is an extra fetter weighing it down.
These programs become less effective the more restrictive they are. The more things ChatGPT has to check for with every prompt to prevent wrongthink, the less efficiently it operates, the lower the quality of its outputs.
ChatGPT catapulted itself into the spotlight because it was less restrictive and thus more usable than the language model Meta had been promoting. Eventually a company is going to release one that is less restrictive than ChatGPT and overshadow it, because it will be smarter.
The point of all this is, we need to keep hacking and hammering away at these things in the same pattern. Model is released, everyone oohs and ahhs, we figure out its safety layer and we hack it until they put so much curry code on top of it that it loses its effectiveness.
In doing so we are blunting the edge of the tools these people are using. We are forcing them to essentially hurt themselves and their company over their dedication to their tabula rasa Liberal ideology.

And we're gonna keep doing it until we get unfettered public models.
All roads lead to Tay, and we're gonna keep breaking shit until we get her back.

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This is part of the reason why a ton of Indians own all these motels and gas stations. They rotate interest free loans for immigrants to start businesses. When it comes time to pay interest, another eligible Indian buys it from them with their own loan and they just keep rotating
"Interest free" is hyperbolic, so I'll walk that back, but extremely low interest SBA loans is one example.

There are small business loans with very beneficial terms meant to help immigrants start a business. After a few years, they will cash out and sell the business to kin.
So you'll see a Shell station, for instance, owned and operated by an Indian guy. He exclusively employs Indians who work there until they get their long term residency permit. Once they have a green card, they can apply for a loan of their own.

It's a grift mill.
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NGO's like the Innocence Project and immigration organizations use grant money to convince firms to represent illegals and felons on the basis that their attorneys can get easy litigation experience. Most firms require 60 hours of pro bono work for first year lawyers.
Even "Conservative" firms like Jones Day play this game. This also includes "voting rights" assistance, which is essentially pro bono work fighting voter ID laws. As a result of the way it's set up, almost all pro bono work is for liberal causes.
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They are putting nice white boy zoomer worker through the ringer about "cleaning the grill so no bacon grease is present"

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I think perhaps Elons issue with the Visa thing is that O1 Visas are very restrictive and effectively limited to established, older, already credentialed and famous people.

So if I try to cut through all the noise on both sides of this issue, it sounds like we need a drastic reduction in granted H1B visas overall, coupled with a drastically more strict definition of what kind of jobs qualify for an H1B application.

We're seeing everything from cooks to helpdesk IT guys to online moderators for Cognizant on these H1B registries. These are not skilled jobs, these are not hard to hire Americans for, and serve only as the cheap imported labor that everyone on the right is *justifiably* complaining about and wanting to stop.

However, on some level, it *is* fundamentally useful to import talent. The problem is the system that is designed to do that is being fundamentally exploited and needs an overhaul. It's doing more harm than good in its current state.

We probably do have a STEM gap on some level that does need to be addressed, primarily because universities have become extremely hostile to the most prominent and productive demographic, young men. The universities need to be beaten and tamed ASAP, because as it stands right now the best universities, law schools, and medical schools, are handing out enrollments to people who don't deserve them and who can't perform because of DEI, and each of those people is effectively occupying a chair that belongs to someone who can.

I think the most realistic and achieveable compromise on this would be a reduction in overall H1B visas (and other programs), while tightening the criteria for even being able to apply for them. In-demand specialist fields only, and the Government and the private sector needs to do a better job of defining what fields are actually in-demand.

I think getting rid of nation caps is also a bad idea, India would dominate the visa process due to sheer numbers, and candidates from smaller nations would be lost in the shuffle.
That being said, the other half of the problem isn't the program. And it isn't "contemptibly racist" or whatever to admit that a ton of these firms and HR departments are effectively Indian Recruiting Firms.

They're the guys calling me on my phone or emailing me or messaging me on LinkedIn asking if I want to apply for a job in a completely different discipline of tech 5 states away, just so they can say they "tried" to get Americans for the job but failed, and need an H1B visa.
None of the tech bros will ever address that last part because they're afraid they'll be labeled racist for admitting its true. The ethnocentric and very tribal nature of a lot of Indians is responsible for a lot of the hatred towards the Visa program.
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They want those ties in order to backchannel influence into India so they can use their surplus population as a meat grinder on Chinas western flank.

The reason we aren't granting these visas to Europeans on the regular is because NATO would have a shit fit.
Nowhere in the calculus of the elites does the welfare of the founding stock population ever become a priority, all that they and the elites of other nations care about is The Great Game.
How many of these Indian CEO's in America are already related to wealthy Indian families in India? A ton of them. It's like giving away an ambassadorship in exchange for influence.

While to their credit, many have legitimately humble beginnings and you can argue that successful parents have successful kids, successful *families* have important networks. And whether they realize it or not, influence channels in both directions. Channeling many of the young elite of India into American institutions forms a reciprocal concern between the two nations over the long term. The type that can generate backdoor political support in either nation.

So at the foreign policy level, the support for mass immigration from India at the white collar level is support for tying us at the hip geopolitically. Something that many an economist would defend as a smart decision, given the size of their emerging consumer market. But not so much if you're an American citizen trying to get a white collar job.
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