Casual mention of carriers as source of Army woes is ever present. Nevermind fact that carriers are paid for and haven't even qualified to be in Major Projects spreadsheet for 3 years now.
Army has 2 "carrier-sized" projects ongoing: AJAX and MIV (BOXER) dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1…
AJAX, in the last Major Project spreadsheet, had its overall cost exempted for commercial reasons, an ominous sign. Last time it was given, it was 6353 million. MIV is 6575 million. That the return on both of these projects is so sub-optimal is largely the Army's own fault.
"Poor" British Army also has 1371 million on Challenger 3, 1787 million earmarked for Ground Based Air Defence, 1521 million for land ISTAR and especially a 13,140 million LeTacCIS mega-programme which is notoriously not doing well, particularly its MORPHEUS sub-component.
Then there is GMLRS expenditure (quite likely to appear on Major Project report this year due to its scope and thus cost expansion) and Mobile Fires Platform, quite likely to also get on the spreadsheet soon and of which we are told there are at least 800 million to its name.
Navy has of course ASTUTE, but even if you wanted to question rationale of replacing the SSNs (i hope not!), that expenditure began literally before Tony Blair was elected: it is spread over a loooong time. F-35? Expenditure began in 2001. AJAX started in 2014, MIV in 2019.
Mind you, expenditure on artillery, ground based air defence and land ISTAR is good and welcome. But AJAX and BOXER need sorting out to best of what signed contracts allow. The BOXER variants pick is a suicidal shitshow at present. Army ought to fix that before whining for more.
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When Blair was elected in 1997, RAF had 8 (IX, 12, 617, 31, 13, 14, 17, II) Tornado sqns, with GR4 upgrade underway. 3 Jaguar sqns (6, 41, 54), 3 Harrier (1, 3, IV) and 6 Tornado F3 sqns (5, 11, 25, 43, 111, 29). Fleet Air Arm has 800 and 801 Sqns. SDR1998 cut 17 and 29 Sqns.
Sea Harrier was sacrificed soon after; in 2005 Jaguar was cut. When Tory-LibDem won in 2010 there were 7 Tornado GR4 sqns, 2 Typhoon squadrons (3 and 11), one last Tornado F3 sqn (111) and 2 Harrier sqns, 1 & 801/ex Naval Strike Wing. 39 Sqn had formed on Reaper in 2007.
The 2010 cuts terminated what little was left of the Harrier fleet and removed 2 Tornado GR4 sqns. XIII Sqn became a second Reaper sqn in 2012. Come the next election, there will be 7 Typhoon (1, II, 3, 6, IX, 11, 12), 2 F-35B (617 and 809) and 2 Reaper/Protector (31 and XIII).
5 Royal Artillery received MLRS Jan 1992. April 1998 it lost it and became Surveillance and Target Acquisition unit it still is.
32 RA got MLRS in 1993, but by 2003 it was all UAVs.
39 RA was the only left with MLRS. It wasn't a UK only thing, but it was not, in fact, wise.
HVM Starstreak was also a system with a regrettably short active life. It entered service in the early 90s and in great quantities that ensured every manoeuvre unit had good SHORAD, but a great number of launchers was axed soon after in the Labour reviews in the early 2000s.
When Labour won election in May 1997, Challenger 2 was new, AS90 just arrived, HVM and MLRS had been in service a few years, WARRIOR was young and APACHE had just been ordered. CVRT replacement and SAXON and other "wheels" needed replacement but TRACER died and MRAV abandoned.
What is going on with L118 Light Gun...? 1 February: the MOD has made BAE the Design Organisation for the L118 Light Gun, tasking them with producing updated design documents and a Manufacturing Data Pack (MDP) to allow new spares to be produced. (1)
Weird part is: "BAES can complete this work due to their unique knowledge and know-how which has been obtained by their maintenance of the TDP for the L119 variant of LG". So, knowledge of the L118 appears to have been lost, and have to draw from the american variant! (2)
8 February, BAE gets contract to produce L119 “Abbot kits”, aka ordnance that allows L119 to be turned into L118.
L119 uses a slightly shorter ordnance meant for US 105mm one-piece, while L118 uses 2-piece “Field 105” derived from those once used by Abbot self-propel howitzer.
THREAD: The UK in the Indo-Pacific.
What does the UK do in the Indo-Pacific "tilt"? No other single topic in modern british defence matters is as misunderstood and misused as this one, so let's see make a summary:
SINGAPORE - Did you know that, back in the days, withdrawal of the UK from region was very much NOT wanted by locals? To lessen impact of hasty, largely unilateral decision to leave, 5 Power Defence Arrangements were signed in 1971 with Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore
Ever since, there has been a residual UK permanent presence in Singapore, tiny but precious: Naval Party 1022 – Sembawang Wharves. Berthing, storage and fueling facility. HMS Illustrious here picking up stores on the way to Philippines for disaster relief in 2013:
If you can and want to imagine big war with Russia, before asking for more British Army divisions you'd better ask for ground based air and missile defence, because cruise missiles are the 1 threat sure to rain thick on UK, and there is next to nothing in place to deal with that.
As the UK is a critical base for fighting the movements of russian submarines, ships and long range aviation threatening the North Atlantic routes and entry point for troops arriving from CONUS, US would have to deploy lots of PATRIOT batteries to the UK just to keep it viable.
What else could the UK offer in such a big war against Russia before? Lossiemouth's P-8 Poseidons would be super busy. E-7? As well. Looking back, Lossiemouth used to have dedicate anti-ship attack jet squadrons to deal with russian surface movements, and that is no longer there.
@JohnHealey_MP 's speech today to RUSI was horribly hollow. Apart from "Tories bad" and a cringe mention of 1998 Review that was nice to read but never realized, Labour manages to once again say AUKUS and Tempest tie up with Japan are good, but "tilt to Indo-Pacific is bad".
Healey says that it makes no sense "for UK forces to devote an increasing share of their scarce resources to the Indo-Pacific". Can @johnhealey, and all who share this vision, finally tell us what this actually amounts to, and especially what it is they want to cut?
What is it that they want to walk back from? Keeping 2 OPVs there? Oh, yeah, that is going to fund a larger army, for sure! Withdraw KIPION? No periodic carrier deployments...? What IS IT that you oppose? What is it that you intend to cut, and what will that save in practice?