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Mar 3 6 tweets 3 min read
Oral argument in the 9th Circuit 2 weeks ago in US v. Bohannon in part on whether Terms of Service waive 4A rights in Internet accounts. (The panel has since remanded for fact-finding on the private search doctrine, according to Fourthamendment,com) #N
Most interesting discussion starts at the 22 min mark, when Judge Eric Miller starts pressing the AUSA on the Terms of Service argument. Does it apply to apartment leases? Can the NSA search? Judge Sanchez joins in at the 26:50 mark, suggesting arg is "in tension" w/ 4A law.
At 28:50, the AUSA tries to distinguish Byrd:, the SCOTUS rental car case.The particular TOS in Byrd weren't about expectations of privacy, while the TOS here are.
At 30, they're discussing US v. Heckencamp. The words there mattered.

My comment: But the judges are missing the key distinction: Heckencamp was a *government network* case! It was at a public uni. It relied on Ortega cases.
caselaw.findlaw.com/us-9th-circuit…
Hmm, I wonder if I should include Heckencamp in my discussion of TOS and 4A cases in my forthcoming article. It's just another government case, but judges can miss that.

Anyway, my views here, of course.
I don't see the CA9 remand on WL or in the CA9 website, but this is what @JohnWesleyHall is reporting.

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Feb 27
Interesting thread from @normative about the notion of "cancel culture": Should it be understood as a concern about fair notice when social norms are quickly changing? Off the top of my head, that might be a useful framework that identifies a fair concern w/o cutting too broadly.
Under that view, it's not "cancel culture" to punish someone for a statement or act that anyone would know then is over the line. But it *is* cancel culture to punish someone for a statement or act that is seen as over the line *now* but was not so seen at the time it occurred.
I gather an application of that might go like this. Say there is a term that everyone today recognizes is deeply deeply offensive. On one hand, if someone uses that word in the offensive way, it is not cancel culture to punish them for that. But ....
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Feb 17
Might write an article on the Fourth Amendment implications of AI. Granted, I can't think of any Fourth Amendment implications of AI. But it would be very cutting edge to write such an article, if I could think of a connection.
This thread persuades me that interest in the intersection of these subjects is sufficiently strong that the lack of connection between them will not be a substantial deterrent to the production of scholarship on the intersection. Time will tell! :)
BTW, perhaps the most common suggestion is that you might have interesting legal issues surrounding AI-written search warrant applications. But the text of the 4th Amendment is clear: an officer must swear out the basis of probable cause "on oath or affirmation." That is, ... /1
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Feb 7
Question for more senior law professors (say, more than a decade post-tenure): In general, do you find your scholarly impact per time period worked is greatest from working on major articles, working on shorter works like symposia essays and the like, or a mix of the two?
FWIW, my own sense is that it's pretty hard to predict which particular article will have a particular impact (there are surprises both ways), but that, in general, the major articles have significant impact even on a per time period basis. Little essays just often get ignored.
A big caveat is that you the author determine what is a major article and what is a short essay. If you think there is a lot there, you're likely to turn it into a major article; if you think there isn't much there, you'll keep it a short essay. /1
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Feb 6
CA4: While we can't assume everyone has electronic storage devices, here there was sufficient basis to search for and seize such devices w/ the warrant: This crime involved an e-mailed threat, and most people own cell phones.

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govinfo.gov/content/pkg/US… #N
I am not sure I get the reluctance of courts to just assume that people have electronic storage devices. The % of cell phone ownership is extremely high, see below. And as Carpenter said, you can't participate in modern life w/o such devices. pewresearch.org/internet/fact-…
I would think the issue in most of these cases is less whether the person has a device than whether evidence of that particular crime is likely to be on the device.
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Feb 2
Treat Citations Counts With Caution: @HeinOnline has a list of most-cited scholars, and it lists the #10 and #11 most cited scholars as Maeva Marcus & Robert Teir. Maeva is a great scholar, but I hadn't heard of Teir. I wondered what's up.
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home.heinonline.org/tools/author-p…
The story turns out to be kinda interesting. The HeinOnline algorithm treats citations in cases as important to overall influence. And Marcus & Teir have a *lot* of cites in judicial opinions: They were cited in 405 opinons in just the last five years.
The article cited is pretty esoteric, though: Hayburn's Case: A Misinterpretation of Precedent, 1988 Wis. L. Rev. 527 (1988). I was curious, what leads to that article getting cited 405 times in five years?
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Jan 31
Interesting: Chatrie, the defendant in the first Article III ruling on geofence warrants under the 4A, has filed an appeal in the 4th Circuit. If the CA4 reaches the merits, I hope they do a better job than the DCT with them. drive.google.com/file/d/1OCoupg…
For my critical reaction to the district court's ruling in Chatrie, see here. reason.com/volokh/2022/03…
Notably, if the CA4 reaches the merits, they might rule on the search question, which the district court didn't resolve. That would be big. (Chatrie's brief doesn't engage that question, but presumably it would have to be addressed to rule in Chatrie's favor.)
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