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Mar 7, 2023 15 tweets 6 min read Read on X
1/ You're seeing a new consult with your team, and you want to teach the primary team too.

But WHEN is the best time to teach them?

On the phone?
At the bedside?
In their team room?

And in the morning?
Or maybe the afternoon?

This week: Image
2/ Last week @VarunPhadke2 described all of the individuals whom we can teach during the day.



But when should we teach them?

Often we default to teaching on the phone when receiving the consult or giving recommendations, but there are other options too.
3/ This week we will discuss the pros & cons of those options.

With one caveat.

Often the best time to teach is the one most convenient to your team & the primary team, which depends on your local institution's workflow.

But let's explore some general principles to consider.
4/ Option #1: Receiving the consult

We are often tempted to teach during the initial phone call when receiving the consult.

This can be a great time to teach, but there are many potential pitfalls including:
🌟 Time pressure
🌟 Perceived pushback
🌟 Inadequate information Image
5/ If we do use the initial phone call as our teaching time (which may be ideal if the primary team is unavailable later in the day), then we should:

✅ keep it short
✅ be humble

See these tips from @VarunPhadke2's suggestions for "receiving a consult"
6/ Option #2: Reviewing Information Together

On consult teams, we often interact w/ other health professionals to answer the consult question, such as:
📌 Radiologists
📌 Pathologists
📌 Clinical lab techs
📌 Other consulting teams

Why not ask the primary team to join?
7/ This provides a great opportunity for multi-disciplinary teaching & learning.

For example, while reviewing imaging:
➡️ The consult team discusses the Ddx
➡️ The primary team provides additional history/context
➡️ The radiologist points out imaging findings that alter the Ddx
8/ Option #3: At the Bedside

We are often teaching our team at the bedside; why not get a 2-for-1 and invite the primary team to join?

This can be difficult to schedule, but it can be a great way to facilitate communication between the primary team, consult team, & patient.
9/ If teaching at the bedside, just make sure that you understand the primary team's time limitations and focus on content that's relevant to them.

See below for examples of WHAT to teach! Image
10/ Option #4: Delivering Recommendations

This is the most common time that most of us teach - either on the phone or in person.

In person is often best since it can help build relationships, but differing workflows often make this difficult.
11/ Just remember to consider where the learner is in terms of:
🌟 Time/space
🌟 Prior knowledge
🌟 Emotional valence re: the consult ask

as previously outlined by @VarunPhadke2


These factors will impact what type of teaching you do.
12/ All the options that we've presented today refer to teaching in relation to a consult question on a specific patient.

But remember that other opportunities for teaching include formal didactics (morning report, noon conference, etc) or even informal encounters with teams!
13/ In summary, remember that many different times & locations exist for teaching the primary team.

📌 Receiving the consult
📌 Reviewing info together
📌 At the bedside
📌 Delivering recommendations

Consider the pros & cons associated with each to help you decide WHEN to teach Image
14/ Thanks for joining! Next week @VarunPhadke2 will continue the "Teaching the Primary Team" segment with ”The What.”

And follow @MedEdTwagTeam, @ChrisDJacksonMD, @GStetsonMD, & @YihanYangMD so you don't miss a thread! Image

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1/ You're finishing your last consult of the day.

It's late.
And it's been a long day.

You intended to find the primary team to teach them, but you have a million other things on your "to do" list.

Here are 8 reasons why you should still find time to teach the primary team. Image
2/ Reason #1: They want to learn

The primary team called with a question.
They are invested in the answer.

It's all about finding out what they want to know and targeting your teaching accordingly.
3/ Reason #2: It empowers them

Often the primary team has an idea of what to do but wants reinforcement that their plan is correct.

Teach them general rules that they can re-use. Image
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1/ Your team just saw a patient with syphilis, and you're ready to teach, but:

Resident #1: on week 2 of their rotation
👉 Has already seen 2 patients w/ syphilis

Resident #2: started today
👉 Hasn't seen a single patient with syphilis

What should you do now? Image
2/ Unfortunately, learners on our team may miss teaching that occurs during the rotation for multiple reasons. Image
3/ As @VarunPhadke2 previously pointed out, all learners on the team are usually not present all day, every day for the entire time we are on clinical services.

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Jan 24, 2023
1/ A member of your consult team presents a patient w/ suspected neurosyphilis.

Your team:
⭐️ 3rd year medical student
⭐️ IM intern
⭐️ 2nd year IM resident
⭐️ 1st year ID fellow

How can you possibly provide valuable teaching to all of them?

This week: Multi-level teaching Image
2/ Teaching multi-level learners is hard.

Their range in baseline knowledge means a single teaching point is often not effective for everyone.

So how can you support everyone's learning without taking too long and/or boring others?
3/ A prior thread discussed the importance of clarifying learners' needs & interests at the beginning of the rotation.

This is one 🗝️ for effective multi-level teaching.

Know what materials is RELEVANT and INTERESTING for each learner level.

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Jan 10, 2023
1/ *Re-consult 📞*

You: What did the last consult note say?

Them: I don't know how to interpret it...

*reading the ✍️ yourself*
#Sepsis
- send tick serologies
- start broad-spectrum antibiotics
- we will follow up OSH data

You: 🤦 I feel you... We'll see the patient again. Image
2/ You wonder...

💭 What tick serologies were we referring to?
💭 What antibiotics were we wanting to start?
💭 And which OSH has prior records?

And you're not the only one wondering...

How can we ✍️ more effective notes?
3/ Clinical notes are used for many purposes, as previously highlighted by @YihanYangMD

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Dec 13, 2022
1/ *Consult team room*

A brand-new learner joins your consult team.

You share details about a new consult & schedule ⏱️ to meet in the afternoon to staff.

⌛️

5 minutes into their presentation you realize, "Oh no. I'm going to have to redo this consult, aren't I?"
2/ Learners on consult teams must tackle unfamiliar and complex questions, often with less time to evaluate a patient and develop a plan than on primary services.
3/ This @AcadMedJournal paper by @s_brond describes factors that contribute to cognitive load on consults.
 
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34348389/
 
Although this article focuses on the experiences of fellows, other learners likely struggle with some of these areas as well.
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