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Mar 9 • 20 tweets • 5 min read
New #SynodalerWeg 🧵: Vote on the Foundational text: “Priestly existence today.”

Less of an action item, more of a statement of principles. On its second read, which means that this is the final document.

Link to doc: synodalerweg.de/fileadmin/Syno…
Doc says theology/practice of priesthood has been in crisis for decades. Broad consensus that:

- A priesthood that is theoretically reserved for heterosexual men alone seems questionable and not compatible with actual practice.
- The exclusion of women from admission to the priesthood causes consternation, and there is an unmistakeable demand for it to be re-examined.
- There is a widespread lack of acceptance today of celibacy as an obligatory way of life for priests.
- There are loudly-voiced calls for the opportunity for homosexuality to also be discussed among priests.
Clarifying note on procedure:

To be adopted, measure needs 2/3 support from these three groups:

-assembly
-bishops present
-women and “non-binary participants”
“There were as many as 295 in 1990, but by 2020 the number had fallen to a low of 56, 6 representing a decline of as much as around 80%.”

56 ordinations for 22 million German Catholics.

By comparison, my home diocese of St. Paul-Mpls (720k Catholics) ordains ~5 guys every year.
There was an amendment b/c the original text did not really address what the priesthood is and why it is needed…
Big concerns seem to be “gender justice” and getting rid of compulsory celibacy.
We are “on our way to a post-clerical future.”
Priesthood needs to develop because of the demands of gender justice. Image
Archbishop Heiner Koch says the document shows no appreciation for young men considering the priesthood.

The previous speaker wonder out loud why there is such low levels of attraction to the priesthood… Image
Bishop Rolf Steinhauser:

Original doc said: Exclusion of women causes consternation and needs to be examined

New version says: Gender-based acceptance is discriminatory and needs to be done away with

Could live with the original, but will vote “no” on changed version. Image
Bishop Steinhäuser (an auxiliary of Cologne) voted against the “Reassesment of Homosexuality” proposal, and abstained from voting on the "Basic Order of Church Service" text, back in September.
Someone just responded to +Steinhäuser and said “It would be a shame if one formulation ruined an entire text.” A lot of pressure on bishops to accept docs as they are, get clarification later…
Btw, if you want to see which bishops voted against/abstained from texts back in Sept, check out this great @CNAdeutsch report, translated for your convenience:

…catholicnewsagency-com.translate.goog/article/synoda…
Motion that there should be a THIRD reading of the doc, b/c its been changed so much. So not voting on it today. It sounds like it would be taken up instead by the Synodal Committee etc Image
~80% vote against the amendment for a 3rd read. This means there will be a vote on the Priesthood today. Image
Now voting on a motion to have NAME BASED voting. 52% are in favor. 47% against. So there will be a vote with the name of the person recorded.

Strange to have protections for dissenting viewpoints be determined by a majority vote. Image
Here’s how the bishops voted on “Priestly existence” text:

40 approved
12 against
7 abstained

That’s 2/3 bishops. Text adopted.

BUT: the total number of non-approvals (19), is higher than the 15-17 that was typical on controversial measures back in Sept; tho not quite 1/3 Image

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Mar 11
Sr. Ganz: I would like to live my vocation as a women religious, but I can only live *part* of my vocation.

Many speakers say something similar, asserting that a subjective sense that they’re supposed to be priests means that objective Church teaching should change to match Image
+Voderholzer (Regensburg): reads a quote: “Maybe the Catholic Church, due to its own structures, is the last threshold of humanity when it comes to differentiating the access of different genders.”

He is one of only 3 bishops to publicly vote against SW’s controversial proposals Image
Gregor Podschun keeps it short and sweet: “I don’t need to say anything that hasn’t already been said by women. The patriarchy needs to be destroyed.” Image
Read 13 tweets
Mar 11
Now: Voting on Members of the Synodal Commission🧵

The Synodal Commission will work to establish the permanent, national Synodal Council.
They’ll vote on TWENTY delegates who will join the 27 bishops and 27 lay people already designated for the committee. Image
Central Committee of German Catholics (ZdK) and the German Bishops Conference already got to pick their 27, each.

For the bishops conference, it’s automatically all the ordinaries. 27 arch/dioceses in Germany.
Read 6 tweets
Mar 11
German Synodal Way, Day 3 🧵:

Up first: “Dealing with gender diversity”

Opening speaker says this isn’t just important for the minority of non-binary people, but for all of us to discover our gender identity. Image
The promise of life God makes through the words of the prophet Isaiah are empty if people’s true gender identity is ignored.

Affirming people’s gender identity is not only a human right but a Christian duty.
We can move forward with action items not just for dioceses in Germany, but in the universal Church.
Read 18 tweets
Mar 10
I’m providing some running highlights from German #SynodalerWeg. But if you want timely news stories on all the significant developments, best bet is to check out @CNAdeutsch: faithful, fast, and actually German! Nothing in Catholic media compares!

Translated links below!🧵 Image
Prelude to the last synodal assembly: Synodal path should "make the church fit for the future”: …catholicnewsagency-com.translate.goog/news/12757/auf…

Synodal path confirms text as basis for discussion about celibacy, women's ordination: …catholicnewsagency-com.translate.goog/news/12758/syn…
Synodal path wants to open door for married priests

…catholicnewsagency-com.translate.goog/news/12759/syn…

Synodal path wants to open door for married priests

https://t.co/MlScCdJEBr
Read 4 tweets
Mar 10
German Synodal Way: Vote on Action Text “Blessings for Couples Who Love Each Other” 🧵
Key background: back in the September assembly, the foundational text on sexual morality/anthropology FAILED to pass after less than 2/3 of the bishops agreed to support it. It prompted hysterics, demand to know how bishops voted, got rid of private vote

catholicnewsagency.com/news/252247/af…
There is a LOT of pre-talk from the rules committee folks about how compromise went into crafting this document, and how it might not be what everyone wanted, etc. Definitely a sense that this is a very controversial, contested topic. Image
Read 5 tweets
Mar 10
Dr. Beates Gilles begins by commenting on Maria 1.0’s criticism of last night performance at the Frankfurt cathedral. Said the performance was all about empowering victims of clergy sexual abuse. The Synodal Way has said it’s proposals are about addressing the sex abuse crisis. Image
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