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Mar 10 23 tweets 6 min read
Dr. Beates Gilles begins by commenting on Maria 1.0’s criticism of last night performance at the Frankfurt cathedral. Said the performance was all about empowering victims of clergy sexual abuse. The Synodal Way has said it’s proposals are about addressing the sex abuse crisis.
Dr. Gilles also says the assembly acted “smartly” by pushing forward a somewhat moderated text on lay preaching and sacramental ministry. Successfully builds a “bridge” between the German Synodal Way and the universal Church’s Synod on Synodality.
Next up, Marc Fring, general secretary of the Cent Comm of German Catholics (@zdkonline). He also cites Maria 1.0’s critique of the performance in the sanctuary of the cathedral, implies that opponents of Synodal Way don’t care about abuse crisis.
He says bishops have not had to take on the “painful compromises” that others have on some of these texts. Both parties need be willing to bear painful moments.
The Synodal Committee will deal with the texts that can’t be voted on at this Synodal Assembly. Committee members will be elected tomorrow. Then a 6th Synodal Assembly will meet in 3 years to launch the permanent Synodal Council.
Bishop Kohlgraf (Mainz) is asked to address “what’s going on with the bishops?” He pushes back a bit—bishops voices need to be heard, and compromise is good. He says in the individual forums, more than the assembly, he’s seen synodality at work.
Fascinating how this segment was even started: “what’s going on with the bishops?” Ie, why are you being difficult? Why don’t you guys get with the program? Lay governance seems to already be a practical reality, just through the ZdK’s ability to cow and manipulate these men.
Dr. Flachsbarth also references Maria 1.0’s critique, failed to recognize the performance centered victims. Getting a lot of mileage out of this. But @Maria_1Punkt0’s point was that the sanctuary of a cathedral wasn’t the place for an artistic performance.
Hard to imagine, ie, the USCCB so insistently and repeatedly distorting a lay group’s critique as a way to shore up the justifications for their endeavor.
ZdK won’t blackmail bishops, but they will help ensure that bishops implement the adopted synodal texts in their diocese.

Of course, none of the adopted measures are actually canonically binding. A bishop has to choose to implement in his diocese
Bishop Kohlgraf having to address a lot of criticisms of the bishops from media and other panel members. Bishops watering things down, etc. He points out that threatening the bishops with 20 million German Catholics is not synodal.
Dr. Flachsbarth, head of German Catholic women group, turning and addressing him. Bishops need to be open and honest and “be able to be convinced by arguments.”
Good question: Synodal committee will take on controversial topics. Will it be in public?

Answer: we don’t know yet. Basically, the synodal committee will be given the green light to create itself from scratch.
The Roman “ultras” among the bishops generally remain silent. Why? Are we going to shoot a video of the Synodal Way and show it in Myanmar, etc to promote this approach?
Bishop Kohlgraf: I don’t like the way you characterize those brother bishops.

Bishops can’t win. When they talk or contribute too much, they’re clerical. When they don’t talk, they’re not participating in the process.
Dr. Flachsbarth: bishops who don’t participate will know how that will look to the public. Veiled threat?
Dr. Gilles: we need to network with other global Catholics to promote the Synodal Way
Frings claiming @zdkonline represents all German Catholics. Dorothea Schmidt, one of the 4 laywomen who left the Synodal Way because they said it was rigged, just gave an interview claiming the opposite: ZdK does not speak for all German Catholics.

mobile.kath.net/news/80985
Budget question!!!

There is no line item cost for the Synodal…comes out of the fund for the MHG study into sex abuse crisis.

So assembly cost taken out of the 2.3 million euro per year…

Weird answer.
EWTN’s Martin Rothweiler asks a question about the Synodal Way’s actual understanding of Synodality.

Dr. Flachsbarth: we work within canon law to achieve what we want. And if our executive committee could meet with Pope Francis, they’d clear up any confusion.
I’m not a canon law guy, but the sense here is that it is, at best, arbitrary rules to just deal with. No sense that it is a pastoral expression of the Church’s faith, a proper loci teologici

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Sr. Ganz: I would like to live my vocation as a women religious, but I can only live *part* of my vocation.

Many speakers say something similar, asserting that a subjective sense that they’re supposed to be priests means that objective Church teaching should change to match Image
+Voderholzer (Regensburg): reads a quote: “Maybe the Catholic Church, due to its own structures, is the last threshold of humanity when it comes to differentiating the access of different genders.”

He is one of only 3 bishops to publicly vote against SW’s controversial proposals Image
Gregor Podschun keeps it short and sweet: “I don’t need to say anything that hasn’t already been said by women. The patriarchy needs to be destroyed.” Image
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Now: Voting on Members of the Synodal Commission🧵

The Synodal Commission will work to establish the permanent, national Synodal Council.
They’ll vote on TWENTY delegates who will join the 27 bishops and 27 lay people already designated for the committee. Image
Central Committee of German Catholics (ZdK) and the German Bishops Conference already got to pick their 27, each.

For the bishops conference, it’s automatically all the ordinaries. 27 arch/dioceses in Germany.
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German Synodal Way, Day 3 🧵:

Up first: “Dealing with gender diversity”

Opening speaker says this isn’t just important for the minority of non-binary people, but for all of us to discover our gender identity. Image
The promise of life God makes through the words of the prophet Isaiah are empty if people’s true gender identity is ignored.

Affirming people’s gender identity is not only a human right but a Christian duty.
We can move forward with action items not just for dioceses in Germany, but in the universal Church.
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I’m providing some running highlights from German #SynodalerWeg. But if you want timely news stories on all the significant developments, best bet is to check out @CNAdeutsch: faithful, fast, and actually German! Nothing in Catholic media compares!

Translated links below!🧵 Image
Prelude to the last synodal assembly: Synodal path should "make the church fit for the future”: …catholicnewsagency-com.translate.goog/news/12757/auf…

Synodal path confirms text as basis for discussion about celibacy, women's ordination: …catholicnewsagency-com.translate.goog/news/12758/syn…
Synodal path wants to open door for married priests

…catholicnewsagency-com.translate.goog/news/12759/syn…

Synodal path wants to open door for married priests

https://t.co/MlScCdJEBr
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Mar 10
German Synodal Way: Vote on Action Text “Blessings for Couples Who Love Each Other” 🧵
Key background: back in the September assembly, the foundational text on sexual morality/anthropology FAILED to pass after less than 2/3 of the bishops agreed to support it. It prompted hysterics, demand to know how bishops voted, got rid of private vote

catholicnewsagency.com/news/252247/af…
There is a LOT of pre-talk from the rules committee folks about how compromise went into crafting this document, and how it might not be what everyone wanted, etc. Definitely a sense that this is a very controversial, contested topic.
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I couldn’t be up there, but this was the entry hymn for Mass at the Synodal Way assembly. Funky!
The Kyrie.
For American followers trying to understand the German Synodal Way, imagine if a Richard Rohr conference took over the USSCB
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