For folks who are shocked at this: You shouldn't be, it's been the goal of Christian Nationalist groups for decades to functionally destroy child protection laws (for them, anyways) for multiple decades, and this is just the latest instance.
Also: A warning to others. This thread will, by necessity, involve discussions of Christian Nationalism linked religiously motivated child maltreatment, including physical, sexual, emotional abuse (occasionally of a fatal nature): I will try to trigger warn
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but due to the particular nature of this thread, it's likely to be triggering to others, so you are forewarned.
So with that noted: Here's a brief history of how Christian Nationalism really is a den of religiously motivated abuse and neglect, and efforts to protect it
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My initial interest in this subject is, unfortunately, a very personal one. I have C-PTSD due to religiously motivated child abuse and neglect, and also have permanent physical disabilities as a result of this
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This included in cases withholding of medical treatment (which is why I have certain disabilities), as well as physical abuse, emotional abuse, etc. that has resulted in severe trust issues on my behalf
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And one of my first experiences that managed to compound my existing C-PTSD issues was my attempt to seek help when I realized what I had grown up in was in fact abusive; I was literally prohibited
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from even going to facilities *designed* for teens seeking to escape abusive households, and was cut off from my one source of support, based on the word of social workers who assumed wrongly
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that teens reporting abuse were "out of control youth" and that "good Christian homes" weren't abusive (and it didn't help that the psych I had was a quack eventually busted for being a "pill mill" doctor)
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And so an early subject I started writing about was how child abuse is actually pretty shockingly rife and openly promoted in Christian Nationalist communities:
Note: This was James Dobson of "Focus on the Family", whose material was actually handed out in *CHILDREN'S MEALS* at Chick-Fil-A restaurants in the 1990s onward.
(Chick-Fil-A is a Christian Nationalist funding front; there are better places)
And probably the first promotion of Christian Nationalist institutionalized abuse outside of it was with the "troubled teen industry", which dates from the days of the PMRC and Bob Larson's "Back in Control Training Centers"
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which promised to "De-Metal" and "De-Rap" your kids but also engaged in "degaying" aka "literally the kind of shit DeSantis et al are trying to force on a state wide level, the sorts of stuff pushed by #HB470 in KY, et al"
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And I myself was threatened with being sent to these places for speaking out, and a lot of people DID functionally get disappeared and sent to these places which have become an "alt-mental-health" industry
Hell, we have CELEBRITIES like Paris Hilton who are survivors of these facilities, FFS!
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Unfortunately, sometimes these are so embedded that--similarly to what happened to me--the state also becomes a participant in the abuse, like with Bill Gothard's IBLP.
And yes, the GOP and Christian Nationalists (even as far back as Bush) were heavy, heavy supporters of this--even largely exempting from licensing, and even using these as diversionary sentencing.
This led to bad consequences.
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In fact, controversies over one chain of these linked to the Assemblies of God (Mercy Ministries) led to a rebrand as Mercy Multiplied, and is part of why the NAR became widely known as a coercive religious group in Australia as survivors started speaking out
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and I myself wrote a series on Teen Challenge, the "brother chain" to Mercy Ministries/Mercy Multiplied
And not long after I wrote that, the Kids for Cash scandal broke, again which in part diverted funds to these kinds of facilities en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_for_…
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And for (at this point) for well over a decade, people have been lobbying for SOME kind of functional regulation to Christian Nationalist "alt-mental-health" industry without a lot of success--due to pushback from Christian Nationalist legislators dailykos.com/stories/2008/7…
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It gets worse, though.
A lot worse.
(Readers: You are forewarned that what I am about to post links to does contain discussion of things likely triggering to survivors of child abuse and neglect, esp. religiously motivated. Will trigger warn where I can)
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What I've described to date is what's done on an institutional level, or things that Christian Nationalists have pushed as part of general agendas against reproductive rights like "moral refusal" laws talk2action.org/story/2006/5/2…
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But in addition to the whole "alt-mental-health" stuff, there are full-on alt-accreditation boards that encourage and protect religiously motivated child abuse and neglect dailykos.com/stories/2007/7…
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Not only will they happily write "exemptions" to get your kids out of those Religiously Icky vaccinations, but encourage violent physical discipline, forcible "degaying" and "detransing" of LGBTQIA youth, and deny necessary meds...
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For example, they generally won't prescribe what is probably the most common and conservative treatment for PCOS and endometriosis (hormonal birth control) because "birth control is an abortifacient and turns girls into sluts"
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meaning that kids that grow up in this circumstance often end up with permanent damage by the time they CAN get out
And that's speaking NOTHING of LGBTQIA kids, who are a high percentage of homeless youth...not because of being "out of control",
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but in many cases being functionally "throwaways" (kicked out of their homes) or who are runaways who (like how I was) are often blocked from "safe places" for homeless youth due to being LGBTQIA and can't trust the system to not throw them back into an abusive home
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And yes, these kids do have a legitimate reason to fear the authorities won't help them, as (as I've noted) a distressing number of police are members of Christian Nationalist groups: talk2action.org/story/2006/4/1…
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Every so often, this abuse turns frankly fatal, as has been well documented with Michael and Debbie Pearl's guides on how to literally beat your children into submission with plumbing equipment
Most mandatory reporters aren't safe in Christian Nationalist households. In addition to cops and doctors, pastors will cause double-down on abuse talk2action.org/story/2006/5/1…
School is often homeschool or church school, and also not safe
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And this is an issue that occasionally comes up in the media only to die down, such as in 2006 when a spate of deaths related to the Pearls came about: talk2action.org/story/2006/5/2…
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Or in 2013, when stories came out about religiously motivated child abuse and neglect of kids internationally adopted (in some cases illegally) in Christian Nationalist "baby scoops": motherjones.com/politics/2013/…
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or (again around the same time) where actual human trafficking was found with "rehoming" of said kids (which LITERALLY resulted in kids being placed with paedophiles who abused them): reuters.com/investigates/a…
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and more recently where there's been some notable attention on both the "baby scoop" industry AND "troubled teen" camps--and Christian Nationalist efforts to fight regulation: jill.substack.com/p/the-child-ab…
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And, very rarely, we get an actual glimpse on how abusers in general are protected within Christian Nationalist communities themselves, such as happened re the Duggars apnews.com/article/politi…
(We are about to talk a LOT on Bill Gothard, btw)
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And yes, it's ironic that every time an LGBTQIA person comes near that Christian Nationalists scream "GROOMER!" because as it turns out there's a CSA scandal in the SBC, and a better-covered-up one in NAR circles talk2action.org/story/2013/4/1…
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...including ol' Bill Gothard (told you we are about to get into him much, much more)
He's reliably accused of sexually assaulting 50+ women, many of whom were minors yahoo.com/now/bill-gotha…
Jinger and Duggar in particular have spoken out
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And Bill Gothard, as it turns out, was a HUGE player in those "Bible-based boot camps" I mentioned earlier... talk2action.org/story/2006/1/1…
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And apparently Josh Duggar was sent to one of Gothard's facilities where Gothard himself sexually abused teens dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3…
And there's an extremely good argument that the coercive tactics Gothard engaged in as a cult leader pretty much fostered CSA in and of itself salon.com/2015/05/26/how…
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And honestly the coerciveness of Gothard's program for rearing kids can't really be understated (dailykos.com/stories/2007/8…) and he's been Very Influential for years (I knew kids raised under Gothard when I was a kid)
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Oh, and Bill Gothard is *LITERALLY* a groomer, as it came out when the whole controversy with the Duggars came out (and what was apparently an EARLY article on LGBTQIA hate): talk2action.org/story/2015/5/2…
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And no, I don't use that term lightly. Gothard's actual "counseling" material for CSA survivors literally blames them for being "tempting". I shit you not: recoveringgrace.org/2013/04/how-co…
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Like, literally, they claim that apparently CSA is the result of those darn 6-year-olds showing too much leg
(This includes 2 members of the Duggar household who were allegedly r*ped by both Josh Duggar AND Bill Gothard)
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And I wish that were the only example I could note, but...well, ok, when they're not beating kids to death, the entire concept of "purity balls" is just sus as HELL
For those who are generally...unfamiliar with the concept, "purity balls" are little ceremonies where girls are mock-married to their own *dads* (the intent being that they give their daughters away after a "courtship" in what is a de facto arranged marriage)
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Most of these kids are YOUNG when doing it (like, WELL below age of consent), there are kids as young as elementary school being mock-married to their dads theguardian.com/commentisfree/…
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And I bring up THIS creep-fest, because a lot of the areas where Christian Nationalists run legislatures are areas where *actual* child marriage is legal--often of victims to their abusers, who'd otherwise be charged with felonies
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And in fact, in states that have attempted to ban child marriage (successfully in Kentucky, unsuccessfully in Tennessee) Christian Nationalist legislators have fought these--claiming it takes away rights from parents to marry off their kids equalitynow.org/learn_more_chi…
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The main advocate was forced to marry her own abuser in KY
Family Foundation of KY (a FRC affiliate) fought it claiming it "takes away parent's rights"
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Pretty much the PRIMARY group that has fought laws banning child marriage in the US has been Christian Nationalist lobbying groups, as was attempted in KY and is blocking efforts in TN and other states independent.co.uk/news/world/ame…
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And this also meets up with...well, the fact that Christian Nationalists have tried to wreck child protection acts on every conceivable level.
The US is the sole country not a signatory to the Convention on the Rights of the Child: ohchr.org/en/instruments…
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South Sudan and Somalia became signatories in the early 2010s.
North Korea is a signatory.
Tuvalu (smallest UN recognised state with kids) is a signatory.
The Holy See is a signatory
Taiwan is not UN recognized but has issued a commitment to abide by the Convention.
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Somaliland, which is not a UN recognized country, has stated they would ratify the Convention if the UN ever recognizes them as a country.
Literally the only country in the entire world that refuses to ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child is the United States.
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The reason the US is the sole non-signatory in the entire world is because Christian Nationalists have consistently lobbied since the early 90s to NOT have it ratified--using the LITERAL argument it takes away the "rights" of parents to abuse their kids.
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Christian Nationalists are petrified that--in cases where states do not protect children from abuse, or assure that their educational and medical needs are met--that kids or advocates can sue, and have SOME means of help when the state and mandatory reporters fail
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And it gets worse.
At least one of the groups pushing for non-ratification--HSLDA, a major Christian Nationalist "homeschool" (actually, correspondence-school) lobby...promotes homeschooling to hide abuse
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They've not only given explicit instructions on how to derail CPS investigations if the kid manages to breach the firewall and get to a mandated reporter... dailykos.com/stories/2007/8…
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but an awful lot of their lobbying, and lobbying of most other Christian Nationalist groups in the country, is pretty much completely derailing ANY potential protective mechanism for vulnerable kids at risk of religiously motivated abuse and neglect
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And if that weren't enough, there's the more recent trend of Christian Nationalists actually using the state in and of itself to force LGBTQIA kids at risk into "degaying" and into "kid scoops" into private, Christian Nationalist-run "alt-mental-health" facilities
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(Ironically, this is a trend that inclusive homeschooling and unschooling groups have warned about for years--HSLDA has actively tried to lock non-Christian-Nationalist homeschool associations out from state recognition; hsislegal.com gives details)
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And I should note, as an aside, that it's not just the ability to protect abuse of *kids* Christian Nationalists want. They also want the ability to abuse women; the very same groups also oppose the ERA, a similar UN convention prohibiting discrimination against women,
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have actively fought against marital rape laws, are THE major force that pushed for Dobbs and are now pushing for *Griswold v Connecticut* to be struck as well as pushing for "Fugitive Womb Acts" in many states criminalizing going out-of-state for abortion services,
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and they've even pushed for the abolition of no-fault divorce and replacement with "Covenant Marriage" (which would ban divorce except under a few circumstances, and almost entirely if children were involved) talk2action.org/story/2006/1/2…
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And--just like with Gothard's infamous "counseling" to CSA survivors--Christian Nationalist writers, including James Dobson, blame battered spouses for being targets of domestic violence talk2action.org/story/2007/7/3…
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There's even a really good argument they support animal abuse, the Pearls have claimed their baby-beating manuals are based on how they treat hoofstock like mules, Dobson also has made claims like this talk2action.org/story/2008/6/2…
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(And yes, there have been cases where Christian Nationalist groups have actually fought expansion of animal welfare acts requiring minimum standards for animal housing, crackdowns on the puppy-mill/kitten-mill industry, and so on.)
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And...this is just how Christian Nationalists are abusive within families, and really kind of support a whole-ass complex of industries dedicated to propagating abuse, and doesn't even touch on how these groups are INHERENTLY abusive unrollthread.com/t/154397144527…
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Suffice it to say that Christian Nationalism in many areas is inherently a culture of abuse, abuse propagation (including against vulnerable populations), and protection of abusers and the process of abuse at expense of victims
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Well, this is...mildly concerning. Large Christian Nationalist/NAR revival at a private Christian university (known primarily for a Christian Nationalist "Christian Contemporary" music festival) might be a superspreader event for measles outbreaknewstoday.com/cdc-undetermin…
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So a little backgrounder. I've been familiar with Asbury Uni for a while, they're "nondenominational" but associated with Holiness Movement (proto-Pentecostalism) and have always had pretty close linkages with Christian Nationalism en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbury_Un…
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(Notably, a senior fellow at the Beverly LaHaye Institute at Concerned Women for America--an *old* school NAR and Latter Rain linked Christian Nationalist group--is a graduate.)
So pretty much up until recently, the big thing they were known for was the Icthus Festival
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Where it gets genuinely FUN is that Iceland (where @iamharaldur is) is in the EU, and EU employment law makes the US look like the Wild West in comparison
Here are a few fun things I should point out for readers re EU employment laws
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@Cdbrow1@iamharaldur@MashaKrupenkin@LisaBloom So first off: "At-will" employment only functionally exists for employees (in that they can quit at any point), *NOT* employers--employers have MANY more regs vs. US on how they can let someone go from a job
An employer can't do "fire drill layoffs" like happen in the US
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@Cdbrow1@iamharaldur@MashaKrupenkin@LisaBloom To properly and *legally* lay people off in the EU requires multiple MONTHS of notices--both to employees AND publicly--and companies are required to coordinate with not just employment agencies but other social welfare agencies (housing, food assistance, etc.)
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Today's long thread is going to be on an unusual subject even for researchers on Christian Nationalism:
How quickly countries can fall to oppression, how quickly marginalized groups can be targeted and lose civil rights, and how very hard it may be to get them back.
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And I'm inspired to write re specific recent events in Florida, and why at this point I think we should seriously be discussing on whether it's time for Biden to do what Eisenhower did back in the 50s and call up the National Guard: usatoday.com/story/news/fac…
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Note: I'm not normally of the sort to call for "calling out the National Guard", but...Florida is, IMHO, crossing that definite line on "Yeah, it's pretty freaking obvious the checks and balances are operating about like Norfolk Southern's brake systems RN"
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In general, this whole movement (which has existed in some form or another since the 30s in the Latter Rain movement) tends to go through periodic cycles of "minor splits and rebrands".
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@TaylorMatthewD@visionsurreal@SlickRockWeb@ChristinLuvsSno@brucewilson@davetroy Historically, these have been triggered *not* by unfavourable news media, etc. (until lately), but by criticism from apologetics circles *within* the evangelical movement. Typically you'll see a few that use the older branding, but then they gravitate to a new one.
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@TaylorMatthewD@visionsurreal@SlickRockWeb@ChristinLuvsSno@brucewilson@davetroy These cycles, of note, have historically happened around once every 15 years or so, and again tend to be triggered by one of two things: either heavy criticism in apologetics circles within evangelicalism and/or actual discussion publicly on coercive practices within
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So. It's historically been extremely common for fascist groups (really, since Mussolini) to portray their political enemies as communists (no actual belief in Karl Marx's theories on worker struggle and collective ownership of the means of production is required).
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And it's quite common for these groups (the religio-nationalist sorts, like Francisco Franco et al, especially so) to outright outlaw persons and groups they consider legally communist (there's a REASON that's the first line in Pastor Niemoller's famous poem)
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OK, and a minor side-thread to THIS thread, specifically re the full plan by the National Party.
These folks had origin in a group called the Afrikaner Broederbond, effectively the core of the NP and which were the architects of Apartheid en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrikaner…
And--had everything gone as intended, had indigenous South Africans and non-whites been run out in general...their plan was to ultimately disenfranchise *British whites* and make them an underclass en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1960_Sout…
(Fascism must always have an enemy.)
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And the establishment of South Africa as a republic, and telling the Queen to heck off, was actually part of this goal--to not only have a white-supremacist state, but eventually an *Afrikaaner-supremacist* state, where the Governor-General and the Queen couldn't step in
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