People should go back and read the original article about Shor and popularism from 2021. What really jumps out at you:
-almost everything Shor says looks worse in hindsight, if not wildly incorrect
-most of his critics end up being mostly correct nytimes.com/2021/10/08/opi…
I mean does the approach here - “adopt X message, see your polls improve by 1.7 points” - in any way resemble how elections worked in 2022? Or is it just nonsense, an attempt to wrap a simple model around something that can’t really be modeled?
Which was a more useful approach to politics going into 2022? Shor’s method of statistically modeling the tiny marginal shifts caused by small policy position adjustments?
Or his critics’ preferred approach: “abortion and Trump seem to get people fired up, talk about them”?
Even now, it’s not recognized enough how broken the “popularist” approach to politics is. Not just in terms of how it was exploited but in terms of how it misunderstands, very fundamentally, how elections and mass opinion function at all
It completely miscomprehends how people develop and form political opinions, and how people choose to vote, and because of that it completely whiffs on what sort of things will cause people to vote differently
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It would really behoove everyone to reflect how the lab leak theory - a conspiracy theory with no public evidence - transformed, years after COVD, from an idea that large majorities of the public disbelieve to an idea that the public believes by something like a 66/20 margin.
What is the mechanism here? There's no new evidence in the theory's favor, it's based on exactly the same loose coincidence as always: there's a virus lab in Wuhan, where the initial COVID outbreak was.
Also, most of the shift in support PREDATES the recent DOE assessment.
It feels pretty obvious to me that the key persuasive mechanism here was just media vibes. Since spring of 2021, lab leak has been an almost-obsessive focus of high-level media discussion. A lot of that discussion took place in mainstream or nominally left-of-center circles.
Okay, I skimmed this, and it's a whole article mostly attempting to dunk on me for... saying that Musk buying Twitter was going to be a catastrophe, and should be taken more seriously? Of all the things to come after me for, he chose a subject I was spectacularly correct about!
Honestly, I think the core disagreement between me and a lot of people is this: I strongly believe that elite discourse, and the animal spirits of media and social media, are important forces shaping politics. Which means talking about politics comes with moral responsibilities
It also means that you really do need to pay attention to the structure of elite circles, who is inside them, what they're saying, what kind of ideas get accepted effortlessly and what kind of ideas get laughed off (which is a function of who is inside them, usually)
It sort of makes me sad how the long-time tension between Chait types and the larger progressive community on here has devolved into open warfare. But it also really feels like the former group have made a lot of decisions lately that foreclose any sort of uneasy tolerance.
It's one thing to take swings at campus leftists from the center or whatever. But it's another thing entirely to choose a position halfway between America's most vulnerable groups and the incredibly dark forces persecuting those groups. That's the basic issue here.
Progressives have drawn a circle of protection around trans people, around minorities, and said "You're with these groups or you're with the fascists." Then our centrists fled to their safe space: "What if we're in the middle?" And progressives responded "So, the fascists then."
Instead of an elected Met Council (good! effective! simple!) we are now going to debate a bunch of insane Rube Goldberg schemes, each worse than the last. Why not replaces the Met Council with *checks notes* a council of governments, one of the worst ideas in America
If you want the Met Council to be directly accountable to the region and people it represents, ELECT IT. It's so simple!
DON'T APPOINT IT, because then it's accountable to a governor who doesn't care about the metro region.
DON'T APPOINT MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS TO IT, because then they're going to use the Met Council to promote their own, local constituents, who are the ones they have to answer to.
I think in some ways the problem isn’t “social media” so much as the way that social media makes you aware that there’s a larger world out there, going on all the time, while you do… whatever slow, pokey thing you should be doing.
I find it much easier to concentrate at night when nothing else is going on. That’s just me, but it suggests to me that social media hasn’t reconfigured my brain to make focus impossible, but that my brain is worried something important is going to happen and I’ll miss it.
Also, and maybe this one is just me, but since 2016 there’s been a distinct sense that no one’s really in charge or at the wheel. It’s a lot easier to ignore the wider world if you believe that competent people have things under control. Hard to feel that way in recent years