1/"Identity with" was too ambiguous to be a reliable predictor of need for medical intervention come puberty, instead, the problem with DSM-IV GIDC was the lack of requirement for physical dysphoria - #GenderIncongruence - which a reanalysis of…
2/… of 🇳🇱 research showed was the sole reliable indicator/symptom linked to persistence. This was always known (📽️ Head of 🇳🇱 clinic, 1995) but #ConversionTherapy clinics instead insisted GNC symptoms - which they claimed indicated pre-trans kids…
3/…who they could "cure" - be included, and then, when the kids swept in by that didn't meet the different criteria for GD of Adolescents & Adults, which applied as soon as puberty started, they claimed - & still claim - they'd "desisted". Their clinics didn't even record…
4/…whether patients had physical dysphoria. An independent audit of the records of 🇬🇧GIDS whose founder was head of HBIGDA/WPATH's Children's Committee & close with 🇨🇦 & the DSM's Zucker - in 1999, published in IJT said the lack of that meant their claims of desistence…
5/…("cures") were baseless. Instead, GIDS switched to claiming that, even though it was the 🌎largest pediatric gender clinic they were totally unable to tell who would still be trans at 18yo & so none could be given medical intervention or should get #GenderReconition - a…
6/…stance it held until 2014 when peer clinics shamed GIDS into testing the Dutch Protocol - which uses physical dysphoria - as part of an international study & found that a reliable indicator, but it still opposes #GenderRecognition <18yo & backs those old desistance stats 😱
7/ A prevailing question is why 🇳🇱 analysts (eg Steensma) were producing high desistance figures based on GIDC in the 2000s when their own clinic only used physical dysphoria for the Dutch Protocol? Were they really all so cowed by the aggressive Zucker?
8/ Another question is why so many researchers still go along with Zucker in insisting upon the validity of those old stats, now lying that they were done using more recent diagnostics
- some even claim the 2018 ICD #GenderIncongruence was used, pre-2013, even in the 1980s.
9/ It's almost as if they're trying to erase the importance of the differences in WHO ICD Sexual Health section #GenderIncongruence diagnoses🖼️, which are purely for medical intervention. 🏴&🇳🇴 reports try to gaslight them as if just a traditional umbrella term for trans issues
10/ Child therapist Diane Ehrensaft Phd, in her 2016 'The Gender Creative Child', describes🖼️, in her family-friendly language, receiving Thomas, Steensma et al's reanalysis of the 🇳🇱"desistance" statistics, finally affirming what she had seen in clinics for years.
@chasestrangio@jessesingal 1/
1⃣Effective intervention at Tanner2 in AFAB prevents any need for top surgery. So that's very helpful
2⃣Arlene got no answer because they were openly against such intervention - which they saw as "binary" - at the time
3⃣All such information is dismissed as "anecdotal"
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4⃣Criticism of European clinics is mostly from those demanding long-term, large cohort "randomised control trials" (RCT) which are unethical in established & effective treatments where non-treatment is obvious & causes irreversible lifelong harm. It is not in good faith.
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5⃣Numbers where intervention is actually at Tanner2 are minuscule, & information would need to be from years later when they were in engaged in optimal sexual relationships - Blanchard/Bailey's beloved genital flow meter laboratories are not suited, nor fMRI scanners
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@JonRonson9@LastBehaviorist@SamHarrisOrg 1/ Yes, but none of us got a user manual at birth, so we have to see what emerges & try to communicate that in the words available at the applicable age. The research Sapolsky cited only had brain tissue of those dead by the late '70s, long before any were out as non-binary…
@JonRonson9@LastBehaviorist@SamHarrisOrg 2/…so none were included, but the range of neuron numbers across the totality of subjects & controls suggests that people can be intermediate; this might account for those unsure until later & non-binary identities. Unfortunately, no other country has ever bothered to…
@JonRonson9@LastBehaviorist@SamHarrisOrg 3/…collect carefully documented brains of trans people, & even 🇳🇱 stopped, due to the backlash, so there's no prospect of further replication. Very high-resolution MRI scans could now pick up the size difference, in the living, but no one seems to want to do such solid research.
@ShapiroTattoo@christapeterso 1/ They're conflating gender dysphoria with suicidal ideation, trying to erase that GD is frustrated #GenderIncongruence. In the Bell case, they used GIDS' lousy study of their patients which found SI wasn't reduced on PBs (negating the 🇳🇱 finding it was) to say PBs didn't…
@ShapiroTattoo@christapeterso 2/…work, even though they are 100% effective at preventing further pubertal change. The 🇳🇱 did the main session on endocrine care in adolescence at @TheEndoSociety conference last week (no doubt to avoid heat on US providers) & were pushing the "reduces SI" line. I don't see…
@ShapiroTattoo@christapeterso@TheEndoSociety 3/…why PBs would do that directly. Perhaps the 🇳🇱 imagine its pubertal hormones directly induce depression rather than the changes they bring? I'd suggest they're in denial that their now long-outdated, prolonged PB period protocol they initiated in the '90s isn't what…
@RozKaveney@ceemage Having been forcibly made aware of the possibility of/threatened, on my 3rd birthday, in 1950, with the rest of my life in an asylum, with daily ECT, "because that's what happens to people like you", I count from then, really. But comparisons are invidious & to be avoided.
@ceemage 1/ As my pinned tweet says, my mother was a nurse who had gone seeking an answer to my asking her some months before to find out if doctors had a way to make me grow up as a woman, & instead learned the official NHS "treatment path". So I believed her.
@ceemage 2/ I decided that such a fate was worse than death & within days planned what to do if I learned I was to be taken to the asylum. A simple & practical plan for a child that age living on the corner of a busy bus route. NHS psychiatrists have much for which to apologise.
@JamesCantorPhD@georgie1801@jack_turban Once again you do the ultimate transphobe thing of trying to link us to pedophilia. Why does anyone take you seriously, James?
You know your other "reasons" are lies.⬇️
None of that answers why you ignore that seriously inconvenient research.
@JamesCantorPhD@georgie1801@jack_turban 2 / The Swaab et al research explicitly controlled for the effects of hormones, but besides, it is now known the BSTc is irreversibly gendered in the first months neonatally, & that it is normally due to the effects (or lack of effect) of androgen but at least one known…
@JamesCantorPhD@georgie1801@jack_turban 3 / …genomic variation can reverse that, yet you still try to use "adult hormone usage" as a fake argument to dismiss the findings.
The research cannot be duplicated only because no one collects the brains of trans people to examine. No doubt MRI scans will soon be able…