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Mar 21, 2023 14 tweets 10 min read Read on X
THREAD: A TESLA MODEL 3 IS RIDICULOUSLY CHEAPER THAN A PRIUS🧵.

Not just cheaper total cost of ownership after fuel and maintenance costs.

Not just cheaper with the Federal tax credit.

But an equivalently optioned Toyota Prius costs more out the door (OTD) in 15 major markets… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
@MDouhne @TeslaBoomerMama @herbertong @farzyness @DillonLoomis22 @WholeMarsBlog @SawyerMerritt @4Kpodcast @live_munro 2 weeks ago some friends of mine were about to have a baby and wanted a new, safe, and fuel-efficient car. They looked at a Model 3 and a new Prius.

I gave them some advice and a day later they send me a pic of their new Model 3. Image
@MDouhne @TeslaBoomerMama @herbertong @farzyness @DillonLoomis22 @WholeMarsBlog @SawyerMerritt @4Kpodcast @live_munro I asked why they chose the @Tesla Model 3 and they gave me the usual benefits (safety, EV, operating system, low maintenance, acceleration, comfort, storage, etc).

But then hit me with the big one: it was over $10 GRAND CHEAPER THAN A NEW PRIUS IN SEATTLE!
I asked how that was possible as the Prius supposedly starts around $28k and they said by the time you add equivalent options that are standard with all Teslas, you get up to the Limited trims. Then there’s huge dealer markups.
I decided to compare the price of a Model 3 to a Prius in 15 major metros. I'll share the results in the remainder of the thread or you can watch my 12-minute video with commentary here:
I asked my Tesla sales rep for the Out the Door (OTD) cost of a Model 3 in 15 major markets. This means MSRP + Delivery + Order Fee ($44,630) and local City and State tax and registration fees.

He provided the breakdown below less than an hour later. On average, you can buy a… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
Some States offer additional EV incentives to most buyers (like New Jersey's $4,000 rebate).

Other States like California have income and household restrictions on their massive State subsidies that can bring the price of a Model 3 down to $24,398 OUT tesla.com/support/incent…twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
To determine the price of a Limited Prius in each metro area, I used Toyota's convenient online reservation tool: Smartpath. This provided the OTD price and allowed for a reservation payment.

Unfortunately, many dealers opted out of using it and I had to contact some dealers… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
Every dealer I found, except for one outside Boston, had huge DEALER MARKUPS AS HIGH AS $13,568!

The average dealer markup was $5,955.

Some of these markups included unwanted, unneeded, expensive dealer accessories.

Many of these cars were not yet on dealer lots and every… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
Here's a breakdown of how much cheaper a #teslamodel3 is in each metro area: Image
BOTTOM LINE: a Tesla Model 3 is cheaper by an average of $404 WITHOUT ANY FEDERAL OR STATE TAX INCENTIVES.

The Model 3 is cheaper by $7,904 with the Federal Tax Credit (max joint income $300k, max head of household filer $225k, all others max income $150k).

And if you qualify… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
If you found this thread useful, please follow, subscribe on YouTube, and RT the first post in this thread:


I'll answer all the questions I can in the comments below and on YouTube
For more thread goodness, check out all the Cybertruck secrets I revealed after Tesla Investor Day:

📸 credit thanks to @MDouhne!

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PLUS more details from @larsmoravy and @woodhaus2:

- There are no plans to make a Cybercab with a steering wheel and pedals (demand for the Robotsxi version will essentially be unlimited).
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- Production will start first in Texas and then move to other factories.
- the Cybertruck has many overlapping parts from the Tesla Model 3 and Y
- even the Robovan has a surprising number of parts from other Tesla models. Image
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- All Teslas on the road running hardware 3 or 4 will be able to function as robotaxis without needing any hardware retrofitting. Image
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New Tesla App updates show Cybertruck details.

It appears the standard wheels are 18” with what look like normal all-season tires. There are also 20” rims with all-terrain tires.

Personally, I’d prefer 18” rims with all terrain tires (more cushion/protection for off-road).

The app also previews the Beast Mode acceleration animation and keycard placement.

🪡More below in 🧵

We also get a preview of one of the first in-house Tesla accessories, a tent called BaseCamp (leak from @Tesla_App_iOS).

Back in March, I confirmed that Tesla would be making accessories in house. This appears to be one of the first offerings.

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@Tesla_App_iOS It looks like there will be 3 rim/tire packages. I’m guessing only the Cybertruck Premium will come with all-terrain tires.

The base all-season tires will likely be quieter, more comfortable, longer range, and cheaper to replace.

I’ll choose the all-terrain tires regardless.
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BREAKING: Tesla Cybertruck to have bi-directional charging and a 240v outlet!

Performance rivals a Plaid Model X.
More shared details:

- A guy who was 5’7” was able to lay flat in the frunk.
- no ramp built into the tailgate
- suspension more comfortable than an S/X
- turning radius is amazing
- feels more luxurious than an S/X
- the Cybertruck delivery event has been scheduled, but not publicly announced yet.
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🧵Mini-Thread🪡:

My family just took our annual trip from Seattle to remote Northern Idaho 🤠🥔.

@elonmusk’s @TeslaCharging, FSD Beta, and @Starlink made it easier than ever before.

Just a few years ago, there were only two Superchargers between Seattle and Spokane, now… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
Our refresh @Tesla Model X could have made the almost 400 mile trip easily with one stop, but with two young kids, we opted to make two supercharger stops each way.

As usual, there were no waits to charge (unlike that massive line for gasoline at Costco in Coeur d’Alene).

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Our favorite @TeslaCharging stop was this one at Liberty Lake, WA Sales and Service Center.

Travelers had access to the waiting room (w/🫖 & ☕️), bathrooms, and the friendly staff even offered to let us test drive a new Tesla.

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Mar 10, 2023
THE ULTIMATE @Tesla CyberTruck TERA THREAD :

I learned a ton of previously unknown info on the #CyberTruck during the executive Meet & Greet before and after #investorDay.

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My CyberTruck YouTube video premiering now covers dimensions, variants, tires, 48v architect, options, and info on a secret internal Tesla CyberTruck Accessories Team! Please follow me and subscribe to my YouTube channel to never miss twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
I know trucks! I’ve owned 6 F-150s including a handful of Raptors. I worked at a Ford Dealership through college. I drive my trucks in the snow, on gravel and dirt roads, I tow boats and trailers. So I compare the CyberTruck to the F-150, America’s best selling vehicle.

Shoutout… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…
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TESLA SEMI GIGA THREAD 🧵:

I was lucky enough to be one of the 50 retail $TSLA shareholders invited to attend Investor Day last week and I'm sharing EXCLUSIVE new info about the Tesla Semi I'm this video, plus including the highlights below:
Some of these insights have been leaked in the past, but today I’m sharing what was confirmed to me plus adding some of my own commentary.

What I’m sharing is accurate today. But Tesla vehicles are never “pencils down” & Tesla is also improving in sometimes weekly iterations.… twitter.com/i/web/status/1… Image
Autopilot and Full Self Driving:
- The Semi does have all the necessary FSD hardware, but they are still programming/configuring it to the Semi.
- Vision based Traffic-Aware Cruise Control is currently active as are other autonomous features.
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