THREAD: What should we make of news that Donald Trump deliberately misled his own attorneys regarding classified documents?
1/ Today ABC News described the evidence that DOJ presented to Judge Beryl Howell that led to her recent ruling that the crime-fraud exception applied to otherwise privileged communications between Trump and his attorneys.
2/ Specifically, the Judge found that Special Counsel Jack Smith presented compelling preliminary evidence that Trump "knowingly and deliberately misled his own attorneys" about his retention of classified materials after leaving office.
3/ She also found that Smith and his team made a "prima facie showing that the former president had committed criminal violations."

In other words, Judge Howell found that by a preponderance of the evidence (51%, more likely than not), Trump committed crimes.
4/ That part of the Judge's decision is interesting but not surprising, because her ruling that the communications between Trump and his attorneys were subject to the crime-fraud exception applies that.

What *is* surprising and important is the evidence she ordered produced.
5/ She ordered that Trump attorney Evan Corcoran should comply with a grand jury subpoena for testimony regarding privileged communications.

She also ordered him to produce handwritten notes, invoices, and transcriptions of personal audio recordings.

That is really important.
6/ This morning, when I recorded the latest episode of the #ItsComplicated podcast with @AshaRangappa_, I said that I presumed that Corcoran kept notes of his conversations with Trump because it's unlikely that the Judge made this ruling based solely on Corcoran's say-so.
7/ But now that is reported by ABC News, not my speculation.

The more important piece of evidence ordered by the Judge is "transcriptions of personal audio recordings." This suggests that Corcoran may have recorded conversations with Trump, his client.
8/ Regardless of who he recorded, the Judge found that those recorded conversations constitute evidence of what she called Trump's "criminal scheme."

That could be extremely powerful and important evidence.
9/ What is not stated in the ABC News article, but seems fairly obvious to me, is that it appears that Corcoran is being at least somewhat cooperative with DOJ.

To be clear, Corcoran did the right thing by invoking privilege and refusing to disclosed privileged communications.
10/ But he did answer at least some of their questions -- the questions that did not strictly fall within attorney-client privilege.

Privilege does not cover the *fact* that notes exist, that recordings exist, or the general subject of a conversation.
11/ It looks like Corcoran disclosed all of those things, either directly or indirectly, in response to questions from DOJ.

There have been prior reports that Christina Bobb, who signed a false declaration that was sent to DOJ, said that she acted at Corcoran's direction.
12/ Corcoran thus had his own potential criminal liability for obstruction and causing a false statement to be made in the course of a federal investigation.

But it looks like he is being treated as a witness, and his cooperative stance explains why that is.
13/ Now that Judge Howell ruled, in a remarkable ruling, that the crime-fraud exception applies to these conversations and evidence, that frees up Corcoran to reveal his conversations with Trump. That could lead to further piercing of privileged conversations.
14/ In my experience, the crime-fraud exception is often discussed but rarely ever invoked. I can't remember an actual invocation of crime-fraud in my roughly 20 years of criminal law practice.

This is an unusual situation and a very dangerous one for Trump.
15/ Clients are usually unguarded with their lawyers, with good reason. That's why we have attorney-client privilege.

But when privilege is pierced? That could be a big problem for Trump, especially since those communications appear to be related to obstruction of justice. /end

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Mar 17
THREAD: What should we make of the Chief Judge's ruling that DOJ prosecutors have met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception for Trump attorney Evan Corcoran?
1/ In a monumental ruling, Chief Judge Beryl Howell of the U.S. District Court in D.C. ordered Trump attorney Evan Corcoran to testify before the grand jury about privileged conversations, according to @CNN. cnn.com/2023/03/17/pol…
2/ This is unusual. Typically conversations between attorneys and their clients are privileged, and in my experience, judges are reluctant to use the crime-fraud exception to pierce that privilege.

This suggests to me that the evidence provided by prosecutors was significant.
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1/ Today the New York Times reported that the Manhattan DA has notified Trump's lawyers that he could face criminal charges and have given him the chance to testify, something prosecutors rarely do unless they intend to bring criminal charges. nytimes.com/2023/03/09/nyr…
2/ The charges reportedly relate to the "hush money" payments that were the subject of the criminal charges that former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to.

Cohen pleaded guilty to *federal* campaign finance charges. The Manhattan DA must bring *state* charges.
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THREAD: What should we make of the breaking news that former Vice President Mike Pence received a grand jury subpoena for his testimony from Special Counsel Jack Smith?
1/ Tonight ABC News (and later NBC and the New York Times) reported that Special Counsel Jack Smith subpoenaed Mike Pence for his testimony before a grand jury.

This subpoena is very likely seeking testimony relating to Pence’s role on January 6th. nytimes.com/2023/02/09/us/…
2/ Pence is a key witness because Trump reportedly pressured him to refuse to certify the electoral votes on January 6th or to delay and send the matter back to the states.

His staff testified regarding this pressure campaign, but Pence had some private conversations with Trump.
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THREAD: Why hasn’t ______ been charged with lying to Congress (or lying under oath)?
1/ As the January 6th Committee transcripts have been released, my Twitter feed has been filled with comments and questions from people who can’t understand why a particular witness hasn’t been charged with lying to Congress, or lying under oath.
1/ Prosecuting someone with lying under oath (or lying to Congress) is more difficult than many tweets make it seem.

As a starting point, the prosecution has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a particular statement is false.
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2/ That news broke shortly after the DOJ announced that Sam Bankman-Fried, the founder and CEO of FTX and previously believed to be one of the world's richest people, was arrested pursuant to a sealed indictment.

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DOJ wanted to give the judge leverage to force Trump’s team to find and return any remaining classified documents.

That leverage still exists, which is why her decision is unsurprising.
My last tweet has generated some confusion, so let me be more clear:

Despite speculation on Twitter to the contrary, the purpose of the contempt motion was never to obtain an order that would assist DOJ in a criminal prosecution or to uncover evidence.
In fact, documents that were unaccounted for could potentially be used by the defense to argue that Trump was so sloppy and unorganized that he didn’t know what documents he had.

The government’s best evidence is and will be the Mar-a-Lago documents, many in Trump’s office.
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