I am not sure @RepRoKhanna needs any backup from an anon account but let me say this as someone who doesn't necessarily agree with his liberal politics but does respect him as a reasonable Democrat. He is one of the few Indian-Americans to directly address ...
... Khalistani attacks on Hindus and say explicitly he opposes Khalistan which is not something every Indian American politician is willing to do. He was also the first Indian American Congressman to condemn Melinda Byerly's racist tirade even though she is a liberal Democrat.
Now getting back to this "gotcha" on his grandfather here are what I see as the facts - his grandfather was a freedom fighter and spent two years in a British jail which is two more than most of our ancestors from that era spent.
So before you attack his grandfather please respect his service to the nation and his sacrifice. Now maybe he did vote to support Emergency (I am not sure the evidence is slam dunk but will get to it) but so what if he did? Perhaps he did so reluctantly under pressure and ....
... because he thought he could be more effective in moderating the excesses being inside the system. Let us note that many other famous freedom fighters have written letters to the British that are unflattering. My friend @avataram posted a beautifully argued and sensitive Op-Ed
by @crkesavan that cautions us against using a binary prism to attack freedom fighters
In any case @RoKhanna has every right as an individual to criticize the recent troubling development in Indian Democracy where the leader of the opposition was convicted of a criminal offence and given 2 years jail for a routine stump speech.
Now getting back to the supposed evidence I want o raise a few questions about it. Abhijit-Iyer Mitra posts pages 31-32, 33-34, 39-40 and 41-42:
1. The specific resolution on which Rep. Ro Khanna's grandfather voted YES is not strictly speaking the declaration of national emergency but its application to the State of Jammu & Kashmir.
2. Why are pages 35-38 missing what content was in them?
I don't have access to Lok Sabha archives and nothing much seems available on the Internet with respect to the votes during the July-Aug 1975 period where I believe there were several votes (not just one) to ratify the Emergency declaration.
It does appear that Abhijit-Iyer Mitra has access to the Lok Sabha archives so why did he choose to post a vote that appears to be technical in nature in extending the Emergency to J&K?
After all maybe Rep Ro Khanna's grandfather thought that if we were going to have Emergency we should extend it to J&K for security reasons. What has been presented as a gotcha is NOT the vote to approve the Emergency as such.
Also is the reason that pages 35-38 omitted because it shows other Lok Sabha members (perhaps even from non-Congress Parties) voting YES on this resolution to extend the Emergency to J&K that AIM doesn't want us to see?
Or would the missing pages have made it clearer to the audience that the vote was not THE vote to declare Emergency but was simply a technical extension of it to J&K?
Also I couldn't help but note that Babu Jagjivan Ram who is one of the leading and highly respected politicians of this time and later left Congress and was a Minister in post Emergency Governments of Morarji Desai and Charan Singh voted YES on this vote.
Maybe it is possible a lot of Politicians thought that the Emergency would not be as bad as it turned out and might be an effective way to reduce chaos and strikes and protests and then were turned off by the excesses of the Emergency period.
It certainly seems Babu Jagjivan Ram followed that path. I want to be very clear I am not saying I know how Rep Ro Khanna's grandfather voted on the Declaration of Emergency itself and what his motivations were.
However I do find AIM's screenshots misleading and incomplete. To repeat this is NOT the vote to ratify declaration of Emergency merely its extension to J&K which enjoyed a special status under Article 356.
I find it interesting that the RW in India has jumped to gotcha conclusions on the basis of incomplete evidence. Not that it changes my views on Rep Ro Khanna's right to contest troubling developments in India one bit even we get a yes vote on the actual ratification of Emergency
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So it was the summer of 1975 and Indira Gandhi had just imposed a state of emergency across India. I was a toddler then and this thread is based on reconstructions from talking to my mother and grandparents about this period.
My late father was a young Indian Railway officer and he was dismayed by this damaging action by Indira Gandhi. Despite being a Government employee he wrote several letters to the editor and Op-Eds which we submitted to various Indian newspapers and newsmagazines.
This was a dark time in the history of Indian Democracy where the ruling party and Prime Minister led a massive crackdown on Opposition leaders and jailed many of them.
Here is the speech that Rahul Gandhi gave in Karnataka during the 2019 campaign that earned him a 2 year jail sentence: indianexpress.com/article/politi…
Here is the offending extract:
"One small question, how are the names of all these thieves ‘Modi, Modi, Modi’… Nirav Modi, Lalit Modi, Narendra Modi, and if you search a little more, aur bahut saare Modi niklenge"
If people are seriously going to claim that is defaming the specific plaintiff personally and it merits a 2 year sentence then I don't really know what to say, you can't seriously want to live in an India where such a normally political remark earns a 2 year jail term.
In discussing this Thomas Sowell clip with @Saiarav I realized that this interview was discussing Sowell's book "Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study" which was published in 2004. I have been a lifelong admirer of Thomas Sowell for his ability to ...
... precisely cut to the heart of the matter and use clarity of thought and exposition to shed light on history and political controversies in societies. It has been a long time since I read him but I purchased this book on Kindle to read the India Chapter.
In the long thread below I outline the key points from the Preface and the India Chapter. I have to say that the strength of his arguments has made me less sure about my support of SC/ST reservations in India and AA in the US.
Health and fitness tweet thread given many of you will be forming new year's resolutions. Last year if the first time I seriously formed one and stuck to it, primarily motivated by some blood tests I got back.
Metabolic syndrome is when you check positive on all 5 metrics below:
All of the UAE U19 women cricket team members appear to be Indian Hindu origin girls. Same deal with the US U19 women's cricket team. Yet when I point out that Pakistani and Bangladeshi origin girls are largely invisible in sporting and cultural events in the US ...
... some people get really upset. My daughter's have been participating in athletic events since they were in elementary school and we are in a diverse region with a fairly large Muslim population from South Asia and Middle East.
Facts are facts. Even liberal Muslims from these nations don't seem to encourage the participation of their daughters in sporting events or even cultural events showcasing festivals or important milestones of their countries.
The thing that people like Hanania who think idiots like Sailer have a point don't get is framing. When the sentence starts with "Blacks commit most of the crime ..." it wants you think of all Blacks as inherently criminal.
Even in the stereotypical "hood" the majority of the violent crime is done by a minority of individuals. Not all Blacks live in these concentrated pockets of hyper crime. So no need to make sweeping generalizations by intentional wording meant to create a certain frame.
The propensity to crime of a middle class Black guy won't be any different from his peers. Not every Black person in America lives in the Hood. That is what these guys don't get.